You can blow your opponent off the bored with them playing many “naturall’ moves.
If they play the main lines and avoid danger, you’re still typically slightly better.
Man its just a fun opening to play.
Any aggressive gambits I should try out with white?
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May 5, 2023
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#22
Scotch Gambit.
You can blow your opponent off the bored with them playing many “naturall’ moves.
If they play the main lines and avoid danger, you’re still typically slightly better.
Man its just a fun opening to play.
You can blow your opponent off the bored with them playing many “naturall’ moves.
If they play the main lines and avoid danger, you’re still typically slightly better.
Man its just a fun opening to play.
you play the Bf5 slav and the guioco piano game as black, mid reps but i got nothing agianst them
you play the absoute gigachad Nxc3 danish gambit though, your win rate is literally 67%
Evans gambit. I play it a lot and imo is the most aggressive gambit out there.
Danish_Gambiter wrote:
@mrOpenRuy I'm not a fan of my black rep I've been experimenting to some success on another chess website some more challenging defences
I've seen some of your games as white, you're a very skilled player. I've also noticed you really like aggressive gambits (I've seen you play the Danish, an attempted Vienna Gambit, an attempted Divert Sicilian Wing Gambit, and the Evans Gambit). As Black, I would play aggressive openings, too. For example, the Sicilian has no shortage of attacking potential. You do have to learn an extensive amount of theory, but if you manage to do so, you'll get tons of sharp, attacking games. If you want to play e5 against e4, I really like the Marshall Attack against the Ruy Lopez (which should be popular at your level).
Against d4, from what I've seen, you'll be very happy with the Grunfeld Defense. Its concept is simple- Attack the center. Yet, it's actually a very complex opening with tons of tactical chances.
You don't really have to listen to me on this, since, well, I'm less than half your rating, but I personally believe you should heavily consider trying these openings.
Danish_Gambiter wrote:
@TheSampson Yes! both Grunfeld and Sicilian I've been trying out I just need to sharpen my knowledge and understanding & of course getting lot's of practice with them
Not the biggest fan of the marshall as most know all the theory, I've been playing 3. f5 the schilemann which I've enjoyed a bit
Coolio 😎
Danish_Gambiter wrote:
@TheSampson Yes! both Grunfeld and Sicilian I've been trying out I just need to sharpen my knowledge and understanding & of course getting lot's of practice with them
Not the biggest fan of the marshall as most know all the theory, I've been playing 3. f5 the schilemann which I've enjoyed a bit
Nice! I recommend you get various courses on the Grunfeld and the Sicilian, since they're both very complicated openings. Maybe if you search in the darkest places of YouTube, you'll find some in-depth explanation or something idk
The Schliemann is a very good response to the Ruy if you want to avoid all the theory- plus, it avoids stuff like d3, an early d4, and all the other ways for white to play the Ruy. It's also very sharp, which fits your opening repertoire well.
Anyways, what Open Sicilian line are you learning?
May 7, 2023
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#29
DianaMatiushcenko wrote:
I used to play the scotch gambit for a while, and players within 1000-1400 rating range, have very limited knowledge how to counter it. It was the most effiecient opening I ever used, with a win rate of aprox 70%. I stopped using in just because I wanted to learn other openings.
For it to work, is should be analyzed before using it. I learn it within 10 moves deep and its variations.
That is impressive, but I believe it.
What did you find as the best counters to it?
May 7, 2023
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#30
I just reccomend anything that isnt dubious
My defention of NOT dubious: Anthing that would result in an equal or nearly equal positon with optimal play from both sides.
These include:
Kings Gambit (Likey the most "duboius" opening I have included, but it has been proven hard to punish below and even at the master level)
Veinna Gambit ( I highly recomend this as it is not duboius at all yet you can get a good positon early on)
Scotch Gambit ( I also reccomend this as it is an agressive gambit while being very solid)
Queens Gambit ( I'd hardly call it a gambit- it's the most solid gambit in this list- it seems like you may be already playing this)
Defaultedwastaken wrote:
I just reccomend anything that isnt dubious
My defention of NOT dubious: Anthing that would result in an equal or nearly equal positon with optimal play from both sides.
These include:
Kings Gambit (Likey the most "duboius" opening I have included, but it has been proven hard to punish below and even at the master level)
Veinna Gambit ( I highly recomend this as it is not duboius at all yet you can get a good positon early on)
Scotch Gambit ( I also reccomend this as it is an agressive gambit while being very solid)
Queens Gambit ( I'd hardly call it a gambit- it's the most solid gambit in this list- it seems like you may be already playing this)
Looks like a good list. I've been considering the Vienna for a few days now. It's good to see it's getting recommended. I don't actually play the QG. It's just that my London ends up with c4 a lot on move 5 or 6-ish
love smith morra, but sicilian players are bookish and cagey. it's a lot harder to play the smith morra than a decade or two ago when Qe2/Rd1/Rc1 is about all you needed to know to tactic the daylights out of every sicilian that crossed your path.
trying to book up on it is driving me crazy. there are a lot of REALLY powerful lines including some where a piece gets pinned on e7 blocking check on that file with a pawn on d6 IGNORING capture because the initiative is even stronger, but the transpositional way sicilians like to play makes for move order nightmares.
I love king's gambit. it can be double edged and there are some lines that can be forceful by black like a quick Be7 aiming to trade for white's knight and steal his castle which is annoying, but RARE, but it can be a BLAST when you you sideline antidotes like "the amazon queen" (sounds cool, doesn't it?) variation
and you have MORE initiative than ANY gambiteer could wish for.
the blackmar diemer gambit can be strong if you learn the theory, but I just don't click with lines based on early Nc3s like I do Nf3/Bc4, so I play the straight to f3 gedult variation. I don't do well in early Nc3 king's gambits either even if those (and ion MANY openings!) score better than my primitive Nf3/Bc4 autopilot lines
as far as I'm concerned, the mieses gambit in the carokann is what the smith morra USED TO BE for me, a gambit that clicks with me so well i hunt opponents in it. i've won 7 of my last 8 games in it, and love how closely related it is to me gedult BDG, alapin diemer french and even king's gambit repertoire.
I'm trying to become an open f file specialist and long to ditch the scandinavian (which I can crush in when i'm not hating the positional mumbo jumbo) and start playing e5/f5 gambits like the rousseau, lucchini, calabrese & jaenisch/schliemann etc.
i like having familiar themes to fall back on in games as I get tripped up positionally sometimes
the krejcik alekhine is considered unsound, and white's queen can get cornered if he's careless, but stealing castling rights whether it be by queen takes queen or bishop sacs on f7 is a go to "tactic" for me and the krejcik does just that. it brings the king out where white can develop every piece he has against it. i think it has a bit of a psychological effect taking black into less familiar territory with heavy threat pressure
and now white can get the knight with a check having dented black's position a bit with potential to bring reenforcements in.
Letsss goooooo! Chad Kings gambit fan fr fr fr
is that a 1...e5 challenge?
as to the vienna, it's considered top 10 gambit royalty by gothamchess and HIKARU! it's VERY trappy and related to king's gambit. it's probably the early Nc3 that does it, but that's why I don't think it'd be right for me any more than the stronger early Nc3 lines are as recommended in one of the best recent kings gambit books. i like my Nf3/Bc4 and that's all there is to that. I am getting more into early d4s now though.
if you're starting from scratch, the vienna is really good. i call it a delayed king's gambit myself
Some more sensible gambits are probably the Smith-Morra, the almighty Evan's Gambit, Scotch Gambit, but there are also some crazier unhinged ones like the Danish Gambit which gets a lot of development for two pawns or even the Muzio Gambit and Halloween Gambit which both give up a knight,
May 7, 2023
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#36
1983B-Boy wrote:
love smith morra, but sicilian players are bookish and cagey. it's a lot harder to play the smith morra than a decade or two ago when Qe2/Rd1/Rc1 is about all you needed to know to tactic the daylights out of every sicilian that crossed your path.
trying to book up on it is driving me crazy. there are a lot of REALLY powerful lines including some where a piece gets pinned on e7 blocking check on that file with a pawn on d6 IGNORING capture because the initiative is even stronger, but the transpositional way sicilians like to play makes for move order nightmares.
I love king's gambit. it can be double edged and there are some lines that can be forceful by black like a quick Be7 aiming to trade for white's knight and steal his castle which is annoying, but RARE, but it can be a BLAST when you you sideline antidotes like "the amazon queen" (sounds cool, doesn't it?) variation
and you have MORE initiative than ANY gambiteer could wish for.
the blackmar diemer gambit can be strong if you learn the theory, but I just don't click with lines based on early Nc3s like I do Nf3/Bc4, so I play the straight to f3 gedult variation. I don't do well in early Nc3 king's gambits either even if those (and ion MANY openings!) score better than my primitive Nf3/Bc4 autopilot lines
as far as I'm concerned, the mieses gambit in the carokann is what the smith morra USED TO BE for me, a gambit that clicks with me so well i hunt opponents in it. i've won 7 of my last 8 games in it, and love how closely related it is to me gedult BDG, alapin diemer french and even king's gambit repertoire.
I'm trying to become an open f file specialist and long to ditch the scandinavian (which I can crush in when i'm not hating the positional mumbo jumbo) and start playing e5/f5 gambits like the rousseau, lucchini, calabrese & jaenisch/schliemann etc.
i like having familiar themes to fall back on in games as I get tripped up positionally sometimes
the krejcik alekhine is considered unsound, and white's queen can get cornered if he's careless, but stealing castling rights whether it be by queen takes queen or bishop sacs on f7 is a go to "tactic" for me and the krejcik does just that. it brings the king out where white can develop every piece he has against it. i think it has a bit of a psychological effect taking black into less familiar territory with heavy threat pressure
and now white can get the knight with a check having dented black's position a bit with potential to bring reenforcements in.
Mieses gambit looks interesting, I will look into that for sure.
I also play rousseau, lucchini, calabrese & jaenisch/schliemann.
I love those.
For aggressive gambits as white, you should try things like the Muzio Gambit, King's Gambit, Bertin Gambit, etc. I'm not listing the Scotch Gambit or Relfsonn gambit in this list because these are supposed to be aggressive and not very many traps.
The first one to list is the King's gambit.
You're going to aim to take control of the center after covering up your e1-h4 diagonal, but first develop fast with things like Bc4, then d4 and aim to try and recapture the pawn. I actually know this gambit less well than it's variations. A few other options after exf4 would be Bc4, the King's Bishop gambit, or g3, the Gama gambit. Overall is usable for a main weapon.
Next we have the Muzio Gambit.
The Muzio gambit starts with gxf3, Qxf3, white is aiming for a strong attack on the f file. After Qf6, e5 is played, opening the e file for counterplay, and after Qxe5, Bxf7+ is played to open up the king. Then, the d pawn is sacrificed with d4, and Black complies. Be3 is used to drive the queen away, and Qxe3?? is a blunder as Qxe3 is played, winning the queen as the f pawn is pinned. Qxb2?? is played instead, allowing a strong attack on the f file with Qxf4+ Black after blocking with the knight, yet another piece is sacrificed with Nc3, connecting the rooks. After Qxc3, Bd4 is played, forking the queen and knight. A super aggressive gambit with multiple piece sacrifices. Most likely what you're looking for.
Another crazy gambit like the Muzio Gambit, is the Mcdonell gambit.
I know zero about this gambit, feel free to study it. I heard it's an aggressive gambit so you might also find what you're looking for there.
Now the most popular one is the Fried Liver Attack.
In this gambit, black can equalize very quickly, but sometimes they can fall into traps. I don't know how much they fall into the traps but I've heard they do a lot. It is important to note to not play Kg8?? and instead Ke6 as Kg8?? blunders checkmate in 3. Ke6, however, defends the knight and still keeps the game equal.
A very improved version is the Perrux variation.
I completely forgot what white is supposed to play in this line, but feel free to check it out. If the attack is allowed, it is +2.3 for white and black has zero chances. However, if black knows what they're doing, after exd5, Qe2+ will be played ruining the entire idea.
May 14, 2023
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#38
The OP should choose a gambit based upon whatever opening he is now playing,whether 1.e4 ,1.d4.or some otherIf he wants to start from scratch I vote for the Scotch--Goring--Danish group that is mentioned above,they are all related to each other and quite effective.There are also effective gambits for every half-open defense.
my repertoire:
1.e4
1...e5 2.f4 king's knight gambit after 3.f3 if you're just starting with it... play the early Nc3 lines. they score better. I'm just set in my Nf4/Bc4 ways, so muzio gambits and simply ignoring g5 works for me. there's a really good book that's a SYSTEM based on trying to transpose to the quade gambit which scores significantly better than 4.Bc4 in general from both sides of the board, I see early Nc3/Nc6s score better than alternatives, but I guess i'm just not good with my queen's knight. that might be why I try to trade it off more often than not
1...c5 2.d4!? cxd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 smith morra gambit. it's VERY hard to study... a move order and transposition maze these days, but still good for an attacker. i HATED sicilian grand prix, exchange, advance & wing gambit, but when I started playing it a decade ago... when you could get away with Qe2/Rd1/Rc1 in every line and my score in it was something like +250 points over my rating in everything else. i'm close to 50:50 with it which is "good enough for me" when i used to score 10% on a good day no matter what i tried. it's especially delicious beating higher rated frenchies and sicilians in under 20 moves when I can because those 2 openings frustrate me
1...e6 2.d4 d5 3.Be3!? dxe4 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 the french alapin diemer gambit because black declines any other gambit i've tried AND it fits nicely with my BDG/& mieses gambits that all feature f3 and lead to king's gambit style open f files.
1...d5 2.d4!? dxe4 3.f3 exf3 4.Nxf3 the gedult blackmar dioemer gambit has similar ideas that transpose. I tried the better scoring BDG proper with 3.Nc3 and did poorly with it. for some reason I do really bad with openings that play Nc3 before Nf3. when i looked at my results, I saw i was doing much better going straight to f3, but that's ME others fare better with Nc3
1...c6 2.d4 d5 3.Be3 dxe4 4.f3!? exf3 5.Nxf3 the mieses gambit carokann. I actually started playing it by ACCIDENT confusing it with the alapin diemer when i was trying to play the maroczy fantasy variation which got declined and became a nightmare for me, but INSTANTLY started kicking butt with this more than ANY opening I play at better than 70:30 after Nxf3! others score better with the maroczy fantasy and fare closer to 53:48 in the mieses, but they aren't king's gamiteers. the mieses is less likely to get declined, can transpose between BDG and/or alapin and is based on this gambiteers "holy trinity"... knight on f, bishop on c and an open f file for my rook. just as with the gedult, accelerating f3 works FOR ME more than others
i struggle some with the french and scandinavian, but i also beat them senseless in under 20 a lot too. i like these openings as a repertoire though because f3 is more like a SYSTEM to me than 3 different openings.
i'm looking into playing the chinese variation pirc. THERE'S an opening that REALLY drives me nuts. just learned about the chinese yesterday. it has THE BEST anti-pirc stats 1700-2000!!! it might not be a gambit, but you can't really gambit the pirc, and you'll need SOMETHING to face it. it scores 57:40! SOUNDS "GAMBITISH" }(gambitesque?) TO ME!
as black, I wanted to adopt a "reversed king's gambits" repertoire (roussea, luccini, calabrese, jaenisch/schliemann, with steinitz (?) scotch, but just the move order nightmare in the luccini proved daunting. I'm thinking of trying the
blackburne/kloosterboer gambit because i already play the scandinavian and didn't know "accelerated scandinavian gambit" was a thing. it seems like it might be less theory intensive and as i already play the scandinavian gambit, might feel familiar. i want to give it a test drive
then again, as I do poorly in knight to c asap lines, i might struggle with this one too, but it DOES have really good stats for others
hope that helps
Oh yeah, also, Caro-kann Caveman variation sacrifices a rook.
After Qb3, white plays the sacrifice, Bd3!!. After Bxd3 and Qxd3, black plays Qxb2. White then plays Nf3, protecting the d-pawn (it'll be important later.) .White traps the queen after Qxa1?? with Qb3, defending the a-pawn (this will be important later). The d-pawn is defended by the knight on f3. After e6, white castles, preparing to win the queen. Black plays b5, trying to gain some space, and then, with Nd2!, white traps the queen.
Botez Gambit is personally my favourite, this gambit can be used by both sides effectively and always secures a winning position, just maybe not for the person using the gambit.
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