At what rating should a player start playing 1.D4 ?

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Lawkeito

I've seen different answers to that question. Some say 1.D4 games need a positional knowledge that intermediates shouldn't been focusing at. 2000+ ? 1800+ ?  Or anybody could play it after passing the begginer mark ? (1200+)

daxypoo
i asked my coach this question and he said that since i started my chess journey with e4 i should stick with it for a long while
he did not really give an rating cutoff for learning "d4" but said i have enough to worry about right now as it is
he also joked, kind of, that since my main play as black is usually to answer white e4 ...e5 and d4 ...d5, i will be exposed to d4 games anyway

good luck
Yigor

Anybody can play it imho. happy.png

Lawkeito
daxypoo escreveu:
i asked my coach this question and he said that since i started my chess journey with e4 i should stick with it for a long while
he did not really give an rating cutoff for learning "d4" but said i have enough to worry about right now as it is
he also joked, kind of, that since my main play as black is usually to answer white e4 ...e5 and d4 ...d5, i will be exposed to d4 games anyway

good luck

 

Looks like it's a common ideia.

AsianCalamariSQ

I feel qualified to comment on this since I'm pretty low-rated.

 

I started playing 1. d4 not too long after I started taking chess seriously. In fact I'd almost never used 1. e4. The reason I played 1. d4 as a beginner is because lots of my opponents would try a Scholar's Mate pattern as black; playing 1. d4 immediately blocks the a2-g1 diagonal, preventing them from doing this.

 

Furthermore, the d-pawn is already protected by the queen, which actually makes the game easier to play for beginners, in my opinion (at least when playing those at around the same level), because it's one less pawn to worry about.

 

I've yet to switch to 1. e4. I just can't get used to the more dynamic positions that it yields, and I don't know the openings as well as I know the Queen's Gambit. So, I'm a weak-intermediate who's always played 1. d4, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Lawkeito
AsianCalamariSQ escreveu:

I feel qualified to comment on this since I'm pretty low-rated.

 

I started playing 1. d4 not too long after I started taking chess seriously. In fact I'd almost never used 1. e4. The reason I played 1. d4 as a beginner is because lots of my opponents would try a Scholar's Mate pattern as black; playing 1. d4 immediately blocks the a2-g1 diagonal, preventing them from doing this.

 

Furthermore, the d-pawn is already protected by the queen, which actually makes the game easier to play for beginners, in my opinion (at least when playing those at around the same level), because it's one less pawn to worry about.

 

I've yet to switch to 1. e4. I just can't get used to the more dynamic positions that it yields, and I don't know the openings as well as I know the Queen's Gambit. So, I'm a weak-intermediate who's always played 1. d4, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

I know that feel, I play better with 1.d4 than with 1.e4, but a lot of qualified people say that you should start with 1.e4. I know that in the future, when building my repertoire I'll be a 1d4 player, my doubt is if I can start straight away with it or should begin with 1e4 to train my tactics and handling in open games.

daxypoo
i dont think there is anything wrong with d4
but i think the idea is at low levels just sticking with either e4 or d4 and getting familiar with the games, pawn structures, etc., of each opening is more manageable one at a time, as we learn the game, then trying to learn both at the same time

in hindsight i sort of wish i had started with d4 as well since the games i have seen seem to fit a bit better

oh well, i had better get better so i can try it out
FangBo

play d4 the london system that`s easy! for a beginner

ponz111

Someone who is a rank beginner can start off with 1. e4 and/or 1.d4

and/or both. Probably both is best.

ryan_duan_10

I believe d4 and e4 yield the same result with one difference. d4 often gives closed positions and dull games.

Airyaydayway

It's not that important. I played e4 for years, but what will you do if your opponent plays d4? You will have to know something anyway.

If you do play d4 and intend to have a decent game, be careful with isolani positions. It will be a while before you can manage those. 

Lawkeito

thank you!

MayCaesar

I started playing d4 as soon as I learned a few basic lines from it. I'm not a big supporter of all those "You should only play 1. e4 until you gain some experience" suggestions, I think it's best to start playing everything as early as possible to gain a lot of experience in different types of positions.

 

I still play everything, just for the fun of it (I find playing the same limited set of openings over and over boring), even though I know that my strength suffers from it. wink.png

JogoReal

Anyone can play 1. d4 in his/her first chess game. Chess is just a game. You don't need a rating system to play 1. d4 or anything else.

rickr705

Although recommendations vary, C. J. Purdy, Susan Polgar, along with many others recommend d4 over e4 to beginners, intermediates and anyone who doesn't want to devote much time to studying the openings.  For example, the Colle and London systems are easy to learn and quite playable with minimal study.

 

I think one reason others recommend e4 is that the games often become tactical faster than d4 games, which helps exercise those necessary skills. 

 

I play d4.  I'm maybe 1200.  I like to keep things simple.  I play the London as white, the French against e4 and Purdy's All Purpose System against almost everything else. I think you should play what you are comfortable with and not worry about tying your opening to your rating. d4 is fine at any level.

 

BronsteinPawn

There is no rating. I probably started playing it when I was 1400-1500. When I took a look at the Queen´s gambit on serious level many concepts like "keeping the tension" finally made sense to me. I know this may sound stereotypical but 1.d4 positions are much more positional by nature and can really improve your game. I probably studied 1.d4 games for over 3-4 months and learned a lot. I think everyone must know something about 1.d4, it is just general chess culture.

DiogenesDue

I started playing the queen's gambit at the age of seven.  Unrated, though.