Best equalizing defense against e4

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Atos wrote:

Can't say how strong it is but it has been used by GMs, including Morozevich

GMs dont just want to equalize

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Atos wrote:
RainbowRising wrote:

GM Milan Matulovic played the Morra for many years with great success ;)


The less people respect Smith Morra, the better for us.


I just avoid the sicilian

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mprhchess wrote:
Atos wrote:
RainbowRising wrote:

GM Milan Matulovic played the Morra for many years with great success ;)


The less people respect Smith Morra, the better for us.


I just avoid the sicilian


Its too theoretical

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mprhchess wrote:
Atos wrote:

Can't say how strong it is but it has been used by GMs, including Morozevich

GMs dont just want to equalize


Right but if you play the Caro Kann from Black side you would need to be prepared for this.

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RainbowRising wrote:

iv played the Kann for years and never seen this continuation


i have for months and I havent :)

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RainbowRising wrote:

iv played the Kann for years and never seen this continuation


Well, I'll have to divulge another one of my hoped surprize weapons:

http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/articles/opening/apocalypse/apocalypse.htm

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Atos wrote:
RainbowRising wrote:

iv played the Kann for years and never seen this continuation


Well, I'll have to divulge another one of my hoped surprize weapons:

http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/articles/opening/apocalypse/apocalypse.htm


its not very good

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It looks very good to me. Can you explain why not?

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White has simply wasted a move with Ne5, Black can continue development with bf5 and be equal, maybe even better.  

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That's true, I'm starting to realize the higher my rating is the more perfect I have to play. I can't waste any pointless moves

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timeless_thoughts wrote:

That's true, I'm starting to realize the higher my rating is the more perfect I have to play. I can't waste any pointless moves


i agree

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Who in their right mind would not want counterplay against 1.e4!! If you are playing for a draw you shouldn't be playing at all. But, if you must know the Pirc, Caro-Kann, and Modern come to mind. That is 1 . . d6, 1 . . c6, and 1 . . g6. But please, be a good chess player and play aggressively.

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I think the French defense is excellent for black.

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ChessChump99207 wrote:

Who in their right mind would not want counterplay against 1.e4!! If you are playing for a draw you shouldn't be playing at all. But, if you must know the Pirc, Caro-Kann, and Modern come to mind. That is 1 . . d6, 1 . . c6, and 1 . . g6. But please, be a good chess player and play aggressively.


 I would have to disagree with you about the Pirc and Modern. In those openings black concedes space in order to create positional imbalances and play for a win, often by attacking white's large pawn center. This hardly seems to be the way to play for a draw, the petroff is much better for that. I have played the Pirc as both white and black, and I learned that it can often be played very aggressively for both sides (Austrian attack, for example).

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ChessChump99207 wrote:

Who in their right mind would not want counterplay against 1.e4!! If you are playing for a draw you shouldn't be playing at all. But, if you must know the Pirc, Caro-Kann, and Modern come to mind. That is 1 . . d6, 1 . . c6, and 1 . . g6. But please, be a good chess player and play aggressively.


I was just curious what people thought the best way to play for equality was, I'm not planning on playing like this myself.  

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BigTy wrote:
ChessChump99207 wrote:

Who in their right mind would not want counterplay against 1.e4!! If you are playing for a draw you shouldn't be playing at all. But, if you must know the Pirc, Caro-Kann, and Modern come to mind. That is 1 . . d6, 1 . . c6, and 1 . . g6. But please, be a good chess player and play aggressively.


 I would have to disagree with you about the Pirc and Modern. In those openings black concedes space in order to create positional imbalances and play for a win, often by attacking white's large pawn center. This hardly seems to be the way to play for a draw, the petroff is much better for that. I have played the Pirc as both white and black, and I learned that it can often be played very aggressively for both sides (Austrian attack, for example).


yes the pirc and modern definitely concede too much space to be called equalizing.  

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The Austrian Attack sharpens up the Pirc considerably, I would think.

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Cutebold wrote:

The Austrian Attack sharpens up the Pirc considerably, I would think.


yes it definitely plays for an edge

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BigTy wrote:
ChessChump99207 wrote:

Who in their right mind would not want counterplay against 1.e4!! If you are playing for a draw you shouldn't be playing at all. But, if you must know the Pirc, Caro-Kann, and Modern come to mind. That is 1 . . d6, 1 . . c6, and 1 . . g6. But please, be a good chess player and play aggressively.


 I would have to disagree with you about the Pirc and Modern. In those openings black concedes space in order to create positional imbalances and play for a win, often by attacking white's large pawn center. This hardly seems to be the way to play for a draw, the petroff is much better for that. I have played the Pirc as both white and black, and I learned that it can often be played very aggressively for both sides (Austrian attack, for example).


conceding space definitely does not equalize.  

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how about Phildor's defense?

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6