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wormrose

When I was a beginner I knew nothing but 1.e4 or 1.d4. I knew absolutely nothing about playing Black. Still, I won enough games to hold my interest. So, I started to learn the openings and it didn't seem to help much. But it was fun. I still study openings but it's because I like to study them.

What really made the difference for me was to study the endgame. That's when my game began to improve; because I was learning general principles. Studying tactics had a similar effect. Things like having a Rook on the seventh rank, a Knight on e5, pins, forks, skewers, etc.

I play hypermodern openings and I don't have a good sound reason why, except that I enjoy them and they feel natural to me. My only hope is that the opening will get me to the middlegame where things start to get good. My enjoyment of those openings has lead me through a wonderful world of discovery about this great game of chess. There is no end to it. Enjoy it! And good luck.

BaronDerKilt

mathiassmall ... Are YOU really suggesting it is easier to learn to play against a 100 ways of meeting 1.e4? than the easygoing Reti? Which btw was not one of my suggested openings for this poster. I said it was one of MY first openings, when YOU asked for some Masters to post what they Did use first themselves. If you cannot remember my posts, please at least remember your own. Also you misread and confuse my secondary goals with primary. Re one such, KI positions do not require maneuver to initiate the attack. It is self evident and flows naturally from the position. You should know that. Why don't you?

  Meeting 1.d4 for that matter. Whereas ways vs Reti's are naught but one of the myriad ways vs d4.

DonaldLL ...glad you Are entertained. That is why you are here, isn't it? Since at least my reply about opening use was tailored to this particular posters problem, I don't expect it would fit you unless yours are the same. However, the original poster has suggested that they Have tried many openings and would have a broad idea of what is out there at least. Incredibly, it is also possible to Look Up what you do not know.  If someone is going to be too lazy to study they should not expect to become appreciably better. Knowing what you are trying to play is indeed a good place to start, for you, imo. Those who come on expecting it all to be handed to them, and crave 'secrets of play', while unwilling to put in their own part, should ask themselves the Question: Why Should anyone be willing to give you their knowlege?

I started at 777 and went on to mastery, even getting to play two persons who have participated in the world championship, without loss of a game to them ... thru work. If that is what someone wants to do, let them read my posts. And if they want some quick fix from some person who's lack of overall knowlege, and fear to even talk specifics, seems to suggest purely computer generated lines ... go for it.

WORMROSE Delightful! Your attitude to the game is a coaches dream. Above all else, that continuing fascination is what keeps one coming back for more. If one can enjoy the game like that and keep the fascination, it is better even than Mastery. Instead it is Artistry and ongoing friendship with a fascinating subject.

Stevereti

OK so e4, knights to the center, etc or the Colle-good stuff but boring .Beginners might try a little of everything: to start with,try some gambits to develop your tactical and fighting skills try some classical openings to develop your sense of strategy,after awhile you will find out which style you like and can settle down and study one or two lines Most important for a beginner-have fun(why else play-we arent making money, are we?)

DonaldLL

Baron,

I think everyone knows now you are a "Master"; you have alluded to it or flat out stated it several times. I am impressed by what appears to me, a beginner, to be the knowledge of the game you seem to have. On the other hand, if I were lazy and looking for a quick (short) answer, or craving 'secrets of play', I just don't think your replies as demonstrated in this thread, would help me out. 'Incredibly' I did read this thread to 'look up' what I don't know... you didn't get that part? Sorry but mastery does not make one a good teacher or mentor. IMO your posts in this thread are no help to THIS beginner. No harm done, you'll certainly find better students than me and I'll find guidance from more suitable 'masters' . You and I can agree on something though... that is, that wormrose's attitude is refreshing. I even find his response to contain helpful advice; it makes sense and has no 'agenda'. Anyways, Baron, it's been fun. I'll leave you alone now. You can at least feel good (or not) that you make me laugh!

pickworth

i must have been hiding under a tree or bush cos i never herd of hypermodernism what is it some kind of art form that uses chess pieces stuck to a canvas ?? or some kind of 4d chess?? someone give us a clue an make it simple cos i aint that bright

Ravetacular

i started out playing with friends casually. we played the italian frequently. it helped us all develop our game by just learning basic concepts and understanding of the game. we mostly just played openings that we were comfortable playing when we were beginners. a lot of the games did look the same though over time. but it was usually, in the end, the calculation of a winning tactical line that brought one of us to be the winner, not so much an extensive knowledge of opening theory.

imo: just play with ppl that are about your skill level that you feel you can be open with about your chess experience and wanting to get better.

billgill0

I think he best opening would be a can of beer!

cavstan

play the opening you most feel comfortable with and when you  can play by heart move on to something else the worst scenario  for any new player is to try and play to many openings at  a time practise with 2 one for white one for black

Winson

In my personal opinion when I first started chess I like to move queen pawn or king pawn forward twice. After playing for three years I still make those starting moves. Why? The answer is simple. Different players prefer different openings so there is no such thing as the "best" opening. If it were me I would tell beginners to play chess in clubs and tournaments and experiment on different openings to find one that suits them. Theres no point using a opening that you dont know how to use. The most important thing about openings is how different pieces work and the tactics around that opening and that can only be achieved through experience playing different players (or read a bunch of chess books everyday but that ruins the beauty of playing chess and is less fun) :D.

dr_chessdad

I agree. I think the beginner should try out everything first, see which positions (open or closed) he likes and start working out a repertoire from there. I like playing 1.e4 because it leads to open positions giving me more tactical opportunities. Chess tactics was what drew me into playing chess in the first place. =)

perp124

I keep hearing that beginners should study opening theory, instead of specific openings.  Is there a good book out there for "opening theory"?

Zukertort

Play the Colle-Zukertort.

The reason I suggest this opening is that it allows beginners to do what beginners should be doing [learning tactics and endgames] instead of spending a bunch of time memorizing lines for an opening.

Also, it's an opening system you can grow up with. At first you can play the C-Z setup against almost anything [though obviously it does not fare well against some setups!], but as you grow with it you can start learning the lines needed to deal with deviations. This is great for a growing chess player because they are not going to get crushed if they don't know the answer to a particular line.

Eventually, you'll want to weave together a repertoire with the C-Z and some other openings [London or 150/Barry type openings].

You can have a working knowledge of the C-Z in a single session and know how to meet most troublesome lines after just a couple weeks...it's hard to beat that in an opening!!

peperoniebabie

Here's my suggestion as a fellow informal player and someone who just began to improve to a decent player:

Stick to the same opening for a while once you've chosen one. For instance, always play e4 as white, or always respond to e4 with the same thing as black (and likewise with d4, nf6, and c4, the most common openings). Just play the same opening for a few online games, then review your games and see what works and what doesn't.

The opening explorer is good at helping a beginner make non-disastrous moves for the first few moves, I would recommend looking through it to find the good-scoring basic opening moves (first and second move) and see what ones you like.

And I'd advise against memorizing a system or an opening setup. Just stick with the FIRST move being pre-planned and improvise from there. It's better practice than memorizing a setup.

polarbeer

play the maltese defense, billy graham frostbite attack, or the grrrrrrrrr-bosh exchange variation. your mum's an opening.

daxbriggs

Just march every pawn forward in a line.

 

Great work!

chilleo

i am myself a beginner, and i can say with no doubts in my mind that logical chess move by move by irving chernev is AMAZING

farbror
Zukertort wrote:

Play the Colle-Zukertort....

Eventually, you'll want to weave together a repertoire with the C-Z and some other openings [London or 150/Barry type openings].

You can have a working knowledge of the C-Z in a single session and know how to meet most troublesome lines after just a couple weeks...it's hard to beat that in an opening!!


 It would be great to read your C-Z 101 crash course and it might work very well as advertizing for ...hrrrmmff..... a certain book Wink

Zukertort
farbror wrote:
Zukertort wrote:

Play the Colle-Zukertort....

Eventually, you'll want to weave together a repertoire with the C-Z and some other openings [London or 150/Barry type openings].

You can have a working knowledge of the C-Z in a single session and know how to meet most troublesome lines after just a couple weeks...it's hard to beat that in an opening!!


 It would be great to read your C-Z 101 crash course and it might work very well as advertizing for ...hrrrmmff..... a certain book


Haha!

Well, if you want a quick view of the C-Z, here are resources [disclaimer: these are all mine.}

What is the Colle-Zukertort?

What's the philosophy behind the C-Z?

1-page C-Z Cheat Sheet

-David

luisfranciscanora

i just really hate openings.. when i play black i just mirror my opponent's first 5 moves... lol.. as white, i open with e4

jacksonlarson
Vance917 wrote:

Pawn to king 4.


nice job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=)