Best Setup Against the Colle System

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Ubik42 is right

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I posted once on the Secret of Chess thread on Smerdon's blog why 2...g6 and 3...Bg7 fully equalises or even is slightly better for Black, I will not repost again.

Pattern recognition easily sees the second player has slight advantage.

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Lyudmil_Tsvetkov έγραψε:

I posted once on the Secret of Chess thread on Smerdon's blog why 2...g6 and 3...Bg7 fully equalises or even is slightly better for Black, I will not repost again.

Pattern recognition easily sees the second player has slight advantage.

 

But noone will care about this utterly stupid thread, for the same reason he won't bother to read sanitary paper with letters printed on it.

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pfren wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov έγραψε:

I posted once on the Secret of Chess thread on Smerdon's blog why 2...g6 and 3...Bg7 fully equalises or even is slightly better for Black, I will not repost again.

Pattern recognition easily sees the second player has slight advantage.

 

But noone will care about this utterly stupid thread, for the same reason he won't bother to read sanitary paper with letters printed on it.

And yet, I always proved you wrong.

It hurts, right?

Especially not being able to assess a simple pawn ending.

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pfren wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov έγραψε:

I posted once on the Secret of Chess thread on Smerdon's blog why 2...g6 and 3...Bg7 fully equalises or even is slightly better for Black, I will not repost again.

Pattern recognition easily sees the second player has slight advantage.

 

But noone will care about this utterly stupid thread, for the same reason he won't bother to read sanitary paper with letters printed on it.

I love your posts ! :-) All of them.

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@Lyudmil_Tsvetkov As always you do not stay true to your word. At least stick to what you say: You reposted
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hoy

 

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D5, Nf6, g6, Bg7 is the best setup because it prevents their brainless autopilot attacks. Same with the London system.

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look at the first page doofus

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Mandy711 wrote:

I like the posted game. Black wasted no time in fighting for the control of the center. No wonder no strong GM uses the Colle system. And it has no element of surprise. Black can easily fight for the center or just use his favorite setup like the KID and QID.

@Mandy711

GM's do use the colle

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dutch defense xD

 

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kindaspongey wrote:

Possibly helpful:
Grandmaster Repertoire 11: Beating 1 d4 Sidelines by Boris Avrukh (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627001415/https://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen164.pdf

I made a study on Beating 1.d4 Sidelines but I only went as far as the 1...d5 sidelines because I prefer learning those openings than the Indian Defenses (and because it was a lot shorter to read). He recommends a similar setup to pfren but he gets the bishop out to Bg5 before playing ...e6 as shown in the pgn

He says not to underestimate it but you should be able to get equal chances

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EKAFC wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

Possibly helpful:
Grandmaster Repertoire 11: Beating 1 d4 Sidelines by Boris Avrukh (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627001415/https://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen164.pdf

I made a study on Beating 1.d4 Sidelines but I only went as far as the 1...d5 sidelines because I prefer learning those openings than the Indian Defenses (and because it was a lot shorter to read). He recommends a similar setup to pfren but he gets the bishop out to Bg5 before playing ...e6 as shown in the pgn

He says not to underestimate it but you should be able to get equal chances

 

3.Bd3 is inaccurate, though. The normal move is 3.Nf3, as Black has to swap pawns at d4 before committing his bishop at g4/f5 (or play...e6, keeping the bishop in).

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pfren wrote:

3.Bd3 is inaccurate, though. The normal move is 3.Nf3, as Black has to swap pawns at d4 before committing his bishop at g4/f5 (or play...e6, keeping the bishop in).

It's definitely better but it is the alternative. But after looking back at the book. He does cover the line you play but under the 1...Nf6 move order. I will definitely check it out

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EKAFC wrote:
pfren wrote:

3.Bd3 is inaccurate, though. The normal move is 3.Nf3, as Black has to swap pawns at d4 before committing his bishop at g4/f5 (or play...e6, keeping the bishop in).

It's definitely better but it is the alternative. But after looking back at the book. He does cover the line you play but under the 1...Nf6 move order. I will definitely check it out

 

The difference is that after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.c3 Nc6?! drops a pawn for little compensation after 5.dxc5 - while with a bishop at d3, Black can answer 5.dxc5?! with 5...e6 6.b4 a5, when white has nothing better than transposing to a reversed Noteboom without an extra tempo after 6.Bb5.

The only reason to play 3.Bd3 first is following with f2-f4 and a "Stonewall Attack", which admittedly is a poor opening.

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İnteresting