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katnc414

I have the Bookup Chess Opening Wizard. Can I use it for online games?

tigergutt

on chess.com i dont think so. you are not allowed to use books at all if i remember right

TonyH

the online chess here (not the live one but the move a day thing) rules seem totally unclear. it is basically correspondence chess so your playing a move every few days and during the time in between how can it not be expected to study and learn while playing? While you can not and should not use a computer to find the moves for you  do they really expect players to stop studying while they play? 

Morally I dont see how one can not expect a player to continue studying and then applying that knowledge actively during any game in progress. thusly books and databases are generally allowed in CC chess. (computer abuse is rampant but interestingly enough in CC chess computers get crushed by masters, mostly in complex endgames.

tigergutt

i agree and on just about any other site than chess.com you can use books for your games.

baddogno

I don't know what you guys are talking about.  Of course you can use books on chess.com.  What is prohibited is engine use and the use of end game tablebases.  There is a link right to chess.com's database from the game screen.  It doesn't do much good past the first few moves usually since you're usually very quickly out of book, but it's there.  I'm not familiar with the bookup software, but if it is just a database then it's fine.  If it is using an engine to generate suggested lines, then it is not.  What is ambigous about the rules?  The whole idea behind modern "corrrespondence" chess is that it is "training wheels" chess.  It lets you get deep into real chess positions (if your opponent also sticks to book) well beyond your current opening knowledge.  Obviously somewhere along the line you have to start playing without the help of databases and books, but it's a great way to get started in chess.  Last month I played someone who decided on the poisoned pawn variation of the Najdorf.  I can't play Sicilian to save my life, but with the aid of the database we stumbled along until move 15 or so when my opponent broke out of book.  There's a ChessMentor course on the Najdorf with a lesson on the poisoned pawn variation that I was studying like mad while the game was going on.  I knew from that course that my opponent's last move was wrong and won the game.  Isn't that what is supposed to happen?  You use the pressure of a real game to find out everything you can about the opening and where the middlegame is going?  And yes I also watched a couple of videos on the Najdorf, read 5 or 6 articles on it and even did a google search.  If I've been using the resources in an unsportsmanlike manner, then someone please correct me.