Can I use this without getting killed?

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onewho_dies

This is somthing I  was thinking of the other day. I'm not sure if I just thought of an opening already made but just wanted your thoughts.

Sothilde

Yes you can, and here you can find how:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Opening 


onewho_dies
interesting I think I'll start useing it since I favor the birds and this looks nice as well.
Sothilde
Take a look at the vote chess game against Grandmaster Nigel Davies here on chess.com, he also opened with 1.c4
Zenchess

Your opening setup started out as being a botvinnik system, but then degraded into a beginner's game. 

Bd2  is not necessary, you could instead block with Nd2, if he trades you get the bishop pair, if he doesn't , you force him to trade with a3 or gain time and space on the queenside....Also you need your dark square bishop to cover the weakness on d4.  If you make a weakness like that on d4, you need to cover it with your pieces, like a knight on e2/f3 and bishop on e3 so that you can successfully swap it when a piece lands there... Bishop to h3 is kind of silly.  Why do you want to trade your important bishop that needs to be fianchettoed on g2 with an undeveloped black bishop on c8?  Now you have light square weaknesses all over the kingside and you've lost a ton of time in development as well.   


likesforests

1.c4 is a solid move, known as the English opening.

2.e4, 3.d3, & 4.g3 are the beginning of a Botvinnik Setup. It's usually only played in the English if Black aims for a King's Indian Defense (Nf6, g7, Bg7, O-O, e5). Playing 2.e4 against 1...e5 will be problematic against 1800+ players, but should hold up fine against players below 1600. But, it's better to develop some of your pieces before making so many pawn moves in the opening. 6.Bh3? - the bishop belongs on g2 in the Botvinnik setup. Also, you've weakened the light squares around the kingside unnecessarily, and one should not be so eager as to spend several tempi trading pieces when they're White and want to win.

Consider 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.g3 which is the English Four Knights. This is a strong and typical reply to 1.c4 e5, and an interesting position to boot.


likesforests

SothildeTake a look at the vote chess game against Grandmaster Nigel Davies here on chess.com, he also opened with 1.c4

It's a good example game. Note, after 1.c4 e5 he played 2.g3, 3.Bg2, 4.Nc3, 5.e3. In other words, he developed two pieces and waited to decide where to place his e-pawn. Since Black did not play a KID (note ...Bc5) he played e3 instead of e4.


onewho_dies

huh ok I think I get it now

 


ChessCaiisa
Horrorible
migu
you can, but i don't like it because it weakens d4 square
LoneWolfEburg
It does create an outpost for the Black Knight at d4. OK opening, but you need to know what you're against.
Hakuoh
it is bascically the english and the rest of the moves are basically random
Hakuoh
have i used basically to much?
onewho_dies

yes

 


sstteevveenn
basically, yes
JG27Pyth

There are 2 master games in the game explorer (both junior championships, oddly enough) that take this line as far as 4.g3 -- the  set-up 1.e4 e5 2.c4 (which you reach by transpostion...) is called the English Opening -- The Whale.

Whenever I see 1.c4 e5 all I can think is, "colors reversed Sicilian! -- Mayday Mayday! Abort! (The Sicilian intimidates me... and the idea of reversing it... no thank you.)