Caro-Kann: Panov-Botvinnik Attack

zerogravity77

I play the caro-kann defense as black, and I am looking for a line against the panov-botvinnik attack. Can anybody with caro-kann experience suggest a line for me to play? It would also be great if you could tell me what kind of game the line leads to.

Extra: It would be helpful if anybody can tell me any other crucial lines that I should know about. Thanks!Laughing

zerogravity77

Never!!

fatymid

It's like Queen's Gambit without e and c pawn, so play it like a QG.

Estragon
fatymid wrote:

It's like Queen's Gambit without e and c pawn, so play it like a QG.

Pretty darned close.  In any case, after 5 ...e6 Black has been scoring very well in recent years. 

zerogravity77

It's too bad that I can't pellik. I don't have access to those videos.

zerogravity77

ehh. Can only find the free versions which don't really say anything.

1random

I also play the Caro-Kann, and this is the line that I  play:

DrSpudnik

Some lines of the Panov fade directly into the Semi-Slav.

The e6 line allows the early Bb4, which puts pressure on one of White's active pieces in an ugly pin. Frown One thing to watch for is the odd move order 1.e4 c6 2.c4, where White puts off d4 until it's safe and tries to get Black to commit to e6 when he doesn't have a pin and shuts in his light square Bishop.

nyLsel

I don't have much respect in this line because it will left White an Isolated d-pawn which will be the target of Black in the game.

zerogravity77

Thanks 1random but just one question. Is the open file the compensation black gets after qxe5 xg5 qxg5?

1random

Well a good continuation would possibly go like this:

DrSpudnik

a ridiculous and highly unlikely continuation.

zerogravity77

DrSpudnik, you might be right, however then could you show me a better line for black against the panov?

1random

According to ChessBase, the first 8 moves have been played in 52 games by various grandmasters such as Dreev, Bareev, Seirawen, and Ehlvest. The rest is just a possible continuation, which, as a matter of fact, happened in the game Kindermann-Balogh.

zerogravity77

who won that game?

1random

It was a draw

Da-Novelty

Here is a line for black against caro kann panov attack

 

If you need more explaination into this line, let me know

zerogravity77

Thanks, I think I might actually go woth that line. But I'm just wondering if white can play anything other then Qb3

Expertise87

He messed up the line, White plays Qxb5 and then Black often plays Qd7, where White can take on d5, check on g5, and take on d7. I prefer Nxc3 after Qxb5 personally.

AngryMacrophage

This is also viable:


The main ideas here are the development of the light squared bishop to b7 and the Queen's knight to d7. I am not arguing that the move order shown above is the best way to achieve [edit: it is definitely not as it loses a piece- see below for a better option] this but it does give black a reasonable equality (a slightly better pawn structure for a little less piece activity). Black could aim to encourage minor piece trades here with something like h6 followed by move aimed at releasing the pin and claiming the open file for the rooks.

edit: I missed 11 Bxh7. I suggest playing h6 before castling.