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Ilampozhil25

first off, fried liver is NOT 4. Ng5

its 6. Nxf7 after 5.... Nxd5

good luck surviving as black after willingly getting into it

and also, to @exceptionalfork you can use snipping tools to specially show a certain part of your screen instead of taking an actual photo (very grainy)

and heres mine i made yesterday (the orders within the tiers are not random, stuff more to the top left in a tier is "better" than to the bottom right)

pleewo

Valid list but I think danish Gambit should move up a tier tbh, I also think English should move down a tier because I don’t like it fr fr fr. Only harsh criticism is what monster puts guccio piano at legendary??? And puts Italian a tier below????

Ilampozhil25

guioco piano is 3...Bc5 by black (as opposed to the two knights- 3...Nf6)

one of the most classical and rich openings in all of chess

and for white... well lets just say ruy lopez exists

in the danish black just plays d5 at the opportune time (move 3/6 and the move 3 one is just an excellent way to avoid the danish)

pleewo

Guccio piano is c3,d4.

pleewo

But white doesn’t get a worse position when black plays d5, how is it only in tricks only?

Ilampozhil25

first off, heres some stuff

and if black plays d5 in the danish: guess whos attacking

thats right, black (afaik)

and i am also taking danish as Bc4 Bxb2 lines

exceptionalfork
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

and also, to @exceptionalfork you can use snipping tools to specially show a certain part of your screen instead of taking an actual photo (very grainy)

Are you able to do that with a computer as well? I've tried finding a way to do that or something similar with my computer but I can't find a way to

Ilampozhil25

laptop with windows 11 (but i think a computer with windows should also work, and i think any version)

ctrl + windows logo + s ( i think)

will give you a snipping tool and you can choose which parts of the screen to show

or you can go to the windows search thing and search "snip" and it takes you there

then once done you can save as whatever you want and add using the image thing

so actually, i was using a computer, not a phone or tablet anyway

especially useful in chess.com arguments where you need to show something for some sort of proof grin

exceptionalfork
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

laptop with windows 11 (but i think a computer with windows should also work, and i think any version)

ctrl + windows logo + s ( i think)

will give you a snipping tool and you can choose which parts of the screen to show

or you can go to the windows search thing and search "snip" and it takes you there

then once done you can save as whatever you want and add using the image thing

so actually, i was using a computer, not a phone or tablet anyway

especially useful in chess.com arguments where you need to show something for some sort of proof

Ok, thanks

kochak9

What about poor colle system?

ivanlosa

How interesting!

adityasaxena4

adityasaxena4

the above is my tier list

Thepasswordis1234
adityasaxena4 wrote:

wdym sicilian taimanov is garbage? Fried liver??? what is this tier list???

adityasaxena4
Thepasswordis1234 wrote:
adityasaxena4 wrote:
 

wdym sicilian taimanov is garbage? Fried liver??? what is this tier list???

Taimanov Sicilian from what I've seen only is really of benefit to white . Fried liver when played is scary and undefeatable .

Thepasswordis1234
adityasaxena4 wrote:
Thepasswordis1234 wrote:
adityasaxena4 wrote:
 

wdym sicilian taimanov is garbage? Fried liver??? what is this tier list???

Taimanov Sicilian from what I've seen only is really of benefit to white . Fried liver when played is scary and undefeatable .

It sucks for white, It allows black to play d5 in the future

mirroredragon
adityasaxena4 wrote:
Thepasswordis1234 wrote:
adityasaxena4 wrote:
 

wdym sicilian taimanov is garbage? Fried liver??? what is this tier list???

Taimanov Sicilian from what I've seen only is really of benefit to white . Fried liver when played is scary and undefeatable .

fried liver is far from undefeatable bro

pcalugaru
kochak9 wrote:

What about poor colle system?

Learn to play both the Koltanowski and the Zuckertort... & know when to play what variation when... and the opening isn't so poor.

E.g.

Anti-Colle lines... prevent the Colle but give white a good game.

Pseudo Grunfeld and accelerated e5 lines... play the Zuckertort

Standard 1..d5 2...e6 lines both Koltonowski or Zuckertort. (I prefer the Koltanowski)

Queen's Indian ... the Zuckertort with an early c4 ( transposing into some of the best lines for white in the QID)

Benoni.. OTB the Koltanowski works real fine. The lines are solid... and one could always play the d4-d5 lines.

KID. The play Zuckertort but with a Reti vs KID strategy ... pretty solid lines in this.. or role with a stand mainline.

This is pretty much GM Yusupov opening repertoire...

adityasaxena4
mirroredragon wrote:
adityasaxena4 wrote:
Thepasswordis1234 wrote:
adityasaxena4 wrote:
 

wdym sicilian taimanov is garbage? Fried liver??? what is this tier list???

Taimanov Sicilian from what I've seen only is really of benefit to white . Fried liver when played is scary and undefeatable .

fried liver is far from undefeatable bro

Once you're in the Fried Liver it is not realistically possible to win or draw as Black