Chess Openings- Halloween Gambit

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Conquistador

What's that sonny?  I can't quite hear you.

thegab03

Should make a wee tourney on this one again, yo!

Kernicterus

Is this a real opening?  I mean...is it played?

trigs
AfafBouardi wrote:

Is this a real opening?  I mean...is it played?


short answer: yes.

long answer: yeeeeeessssssssss.

oinquarki
AfafBouardi wrote:

Is this a real opening?  I mean...is it played?


 

Yes, it is a real opening. It's listed in the chess.com opening book along with two of it's variations. It's unsound, which is why it is pretty much never played by masters, but in blitz and at lower levels (like mine, for example) it can lead to an incredibly sharp game. If you think it's a bad opening, then send my a challenge and see if you can prove it!Smile

bharat_sharmaGM: Nice video! Provides a good overview of the basics of the opening.

timeless_thoughts

I love the halloween gambit. I just never get to use it

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Oh for crying out loud.

1.e4 c6

Kernicterus

lol.  Ozzie...is that your mantra?

ozzie_c_cobblepot

I'm interested in the Wilkes-Barre for a couple of reasons. First, it brings back that old "Hey isn't the Fried Liver attack cool" sense of excitement from when I was rated USCF 1400. Second, I think it would be a good exercise for someone who was really looking to prepare an opening well using a computer.

That being said, the Wilkes-Barre is apparently complicated enough that I would very likely make my first exercise the Budapest. Given a week or so, find the best line to play against the Budapest, and find the typical plans that work in that opening.

costelus

I experienced once the Budapest Gambit as White and it appeared extremely difficult. It was like walking through a mine field. However, has this gambit ever been played OTB in strong games? It seems to me that this opening is only popular in CC, where you have Rybka to handle tactical crazy positions.

ozzie_c_cobblepot
Gonnosuke wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

I'm interested in the Wilkes-Barre for a couple of reasons. First, it brings back that old "Hey isn't the Fried Liver attack cool" sense of excitement from when I was rated USCF 1400. Second, I think it would be a good exercise for someone who was really looking to prepare an opening well using a computer.

That being said, the Wilkes-Barre is apparently complicated enough that I would very likely make my first exercise the Budapest. Given a week or so, find the best line to play against the Budapest, and find the typical plans that work in that opening.


The Budapest is still pretty low on the adventure scale.  

On a more serious note, at the end of that week I think you'd likely end up with a convincing argument against the Budapest.


The simplicity and moderate lack of adventure is exactly what would make it an appealing "lesson 1" for this type of analysis.

Going in, here is what I would expect to find. The Karpov line leads to a game which has only winning chances for white but is difficult to convert. Studying this one in detail is of paramount importance, because if black can hold the ending he could use this opening as a bit of a drawing weapon against top-level opposition.

Of course, I would have to try to reconstruct XXXXX's analysis here on this site, which more or less stated that white was nearly completely winning in the Nc3 lines, with the doubled pawns. Because that line is actually the one that Budapest players are really aiming for. Down a pawn, but first you neutralize the pawns, then you win white's pawns one by one, then you win the ending.

All of this is mostly theoretical, as a preparation more to how one approaches the asset of a strong program or programs being incorporated into opening preparation.

One side effect I'm sure is that if you really become that much of an expert in this opening, you can use it in shorter time controls to your advantage.

And hey, just because I go in expecting one thing doesn't mean that this is the actual result. Maybe the whole thing is complete crap and the bot-tournaments end up with a massive white score.

marvellosity

Doesn't White aim to throw in a quick c5 in those doubled pawn lines?

billwall

I have experimented with the gambit in blitz chess.

costelus

Well Bill, what is the rating of your opponent? 1200 ELO maybe? He did not even play the Halloween gambit since he returned the knight immediately.

modernchess

Good video, I really need that intro music.

bharat_sharmaGM

Any one

i play this opening with u

                                    any one who want to play with me and test this opening!!!!!!!!

                                              so challenge me for game

bharat_sharmaGM
costelus wrote:

Well Bill, what is the rating of your opponent? 1200 ELO maybe? He did not even play the Halloween gambit since he returned the knight immediately.


so play with me and find out

bharat_sharmaGM
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bharat_sharmaGM
AfafBouardi wrote:

Is this a real opening?  I mean...is it played?


yeah !!!!!!!1

its opening work

if u play this opening with fritz12

                                     its work!!!!!!!