Alekhine plus scandinavian leads to new theory and win for me playing black-see below--white resigned since back mates next move
Scandinavian Defense
There's a cheeky line of the Scandinavian a friend of mine used to play, where Black tries to get an 'improved' version of the Karpov Caro Kann.
It's an interesting idea if nothing else, certainly a good way to avoid theory, but the 3.Nf3 move order stops it cold, which also stops this from being a universal system against 1.e4.
7.Ne5 and 8.Bf4 is meant to be pretty good for White in that 3...Qe5+!? line. It's not unplayably bad for Black, just a little worse.
2.e5 is not a good move vs Scandinavian. 2.Bf5 followed by e6 and black has a better version of French defence with an active light squared bishop.
I hate the Scandinavian but I must admit that it is a very decent opening if you play 3...Qd6, against 3...Qa5 I dont see much hope for Black. White gets more space and an overall more comfortable game and Black gets no compensation for it, at least in classical time controls.
If I had to play something else than the Sicilian in blitz chess I would probably choose the Scandinavian.
...what? Do you mean for White? Why's the knight on f3?
Its actually a good move, avoids a lot theory and has a high winning percentage for white. 3.Nf3!
The idea of 3.Nf3, looking at a few lines, seems to be to avoid blocking the c-pawn, so that a tempo can later be gained on the Queen by c4 after d4, Be2 and O-O. Then White can put the Knight on c3. In other lines, White can play c3 to support d4. So 3.Nf3 is a more flexible choice than 3.Nc3.
It can wait. If 3. Nc3, then White gains a tempo for 4. Nf3.
3.NF3 is play by Vladimir Malakhov who is 2713 and many GMs play it too; and would add IMs and many masters.
The idea of 3.Nf3, looking at a few lines, seems to be to avoid blocking the c-pawn, so that a tempo can later be gained on the Queen by c4 after d4, Be2 and O-O. Then White can put the Knight on c3. In other lines, White can play c3 to support d4. So 3.Nf3 is a more flexible choice than 3.Nc3.
That is correct! And it about a lot theory and black doesn't get his usual Scandinavian setup, that is I play it and many GMs, IMs and Masters.
I hate the Scandinavian but I must admit that it is a very decent opening if you play 3...Qd6, against 3...Qa5 I dont see much hope for Black. White gets more space and an overall more comfortable game and Black gets no compensation for it, at least in classical time controls.
If I had to play something else than the Sicilian in blitz chess I would probably choose the Scandinavian.
Don't make the mistake to underestimate 3...Qd8.It is a line that has been tried by Laznicka , Kuzubov and Djukic with very good results.Djukic played it even against Carlsen and lost but not because of the opening.
Even Carlsen himself tried the line.
Forgot about 3...Qd8, I did not underestimate it. I think it is good too, it looks weird to retreat the queen all the way back but it is pretty solid.
In my eyes, the best Scandi options go like this:
1- 3...Qd6
2- 3...Qd8
3- 3...Qa5
4- 3...Nf6 ![]()
I think you mean ....2Nf6
Qa5 is ok. Certainly stronger than Qd8.
I meant Nf6 as a joke.
And I dont know man... I did some analysis a while ago on Qa5 and it definitely looks like Black is just better off keeping things simple with Qd8. We can discuss it if you want.
Practically at our mortal level everything does well, I am kind of talking theoritically, but most, it is just my opinion and what I have found, I am not an Scandi expert.
Back in the days I played 1. e4, I didn't like playing against the centre counter but I seemed to get more pressure against Qd8. But the reason I gave up 1. e4was that it's too drawish unless white embarks on some fantastic, memorised lines. I don't think 1. e4 is as objectively strong as 1. d4.
There's a 1600 player at our local club who plays the Scandi as black with 2. ..Nf6. Does well with it also.
I've played over 1000 OTB games with the 2.... Nf6 move order, and although I would never assert its soundness at the GM level (classical time controls), I can attest that it is enormously fun to play, albeit challenging. White often gets a huge pawn center, and Black hangs on the precipice of getting over run, but, there are a number of ways to attack that pawn center and see White's positon implode. But the onus of accuracy rests on Black.
Australian GM David Smerndon, wrote "Smerndon's Scandinavian" (2015). It's fantastic, if you are a Scandinavian player -- full of original ideas and moves to drive White insane. ("How can you get away with f5 in that position!!??)
There's a cheeky line of the Scandinavian a friend of mine used to play, where Black tries to get an 'improved' version of the Karpov Caro Kann.
It's an interesting idea if nothing else, certainly a good way to avoid theory, but the 3.Nf3 move order stops it cold, which also stops this from being a universal system against 1.e4.
gm Christian bauer sais that he doesnt deny than white gets an enormous advantage in the Qe5 line:/
...what? Do you mean for White? Why's the knight on f3?