Countering the Sicilian SM gambit

White is far better there

yes, because engine play and practical play are completely the same, and a player in a rapid game would follow exactly the engine line

First of all stop using engines if you have a preposition then give an argument for it.

secondly white is better, and by a decent margin. black has over exstended the c pawn, has both bishops blocked, and whites disallowing Nc6 so black is going to have poor development, and is going to stuggle to get a foothold for the entire opening.

best moves for black in my opinion are Nf6 developing and trying to get create a battle for the center, a6 slowing whites attack and trying for a more positional game, d6 preventing white from playing d6 and preparing to play Nf6, and Nd7 in the future, exd5 relieving the tension, and trying for something more a kin to a modern Benoni just with c4 rather than e4 so slightly worse for black but it plays much the same. and everything else is just even worse for black. (In my opinion)

So this is another way white can play the.. I'll just call it the SM Gambit, Brollier Defense for simplicity, Im not really sure where to put the queen now.

Qd3 makes a6 even stronger but doesnt really have a major draw back, Qc4 allows for e6, d5 and kinda accomplishes nothing that makes the sacrifice reasonable, Qd2 and Qd1 just dont do anything, but arnt necessarily bad in their own respect, Qe3 lets d5 force you to trade 5. exd5 Nxd5 and you can choose either to go Qd2, or Nxd5 either one is scary really scary for white, and finally Qa4 a6, b5 dosnt work because Bxb5 is possible so there isnt much of a threat, you can pretty much ignor black for a while and just develope naturally.

Qd3, and Qa4 are my 2 canidates and Im really starting to hate Qa4 so if you got a trick up your sleeve Id like to know.

Humans using a super-chess engine to "prove" a certain chess opening/line is "good" is utterly pointless. Debating a few tenths of a point is funny considering humans don't play at all like engines, let alone a super-engine. This just look like "gas-bagging"

finally hit 1300 (rapid) using the Orangutan opening!

Anyway back to the topic I was looking over as shown in my last post that white can go Qa4 and get much the same outcome as if white played 3. Nc6 so heres a revised response for black.

can you put some numbers with your moves I dont have context

after 7.Nc3 it seems like white is in turmoil

I mean I dont see much wrong with the first couple moves, my aruments usually lie in nuanced positional differences like 10. d6 before Nf3, but move 10... Bb4 just hangs your bishop in 1 move for no reason.

11. Qa4+ if your wondering

well in that case 10.Bc5 instead of 10.Bb4

In the long run I dont really understand trading the pawns, if you have a specific reason for it id like to hear, but it kinda sufficates your peices after the trading is finished. like look at this

neither Knight has any good moves, the dark sqaured bishop cant move anywhere even Be7 is a fork, the light squared bishop can only move to f5 and f5 is pretty much challanging nothing while white developes castles and kicks out the bishop, g6 dosnt work anymore, you cant prevent white from going Nf3 and winning the pawn back, and white has absolutely no threats in this position

yea that just concludes that Nxb5 is an equal trade of material, and your pawns are alot more valuable in this situation so we need a counter for that.

13. a4 is really the only alternitive to take advantage of the pawn; now black should either go b4 or do a developing move either way your gonna lose the pawns.

Yea you might wanna look more into 5... g6 or even 6... g6 like we theorized earlier

This is a refined variation of what I said pst #52 I believe

d5 is playing with fire I'll get nightmares of o-o-o in my najdorf when my kings surrounded by my entire army, but here? thats a whole new ball game.

against 1.e4 of course , I'd play 1.e5 . It's against 1.d4 when I play 1.e6 to try to avoid the London then white goes 1.e4 transposing to a French that I then go 2.c5 to transpose to a Franco-Sicilian

1…e6 doesn’t avoid the London. Like, at all.

name even one line that leads to a London after 1.d4 e6 ???????????