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ChessBoy513

Aug 1, 2019

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#1

I call this the DutchPirc Attack since 1) I invented it, and 2) it's a cross between the Dutch and the Pirc.

3 main variations in my opinion. 1) The Normal Variation, Main line

2) Advanced Variation, Main Line

3) Exchange Variation, Main Line

ThrillerFan

Aug 1, 2019

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#2

It is not called the DutchPirc and you did NOT invent it.

It has been known for ages, and I even played it one time back in the early 2000s against an 1800 player over the board who was clueless against odd openings.

It is called the Balogh Countergambit. 3.Nc3 Nf6 is the main line. Taking on f5 or advancing is inferior (my opponent took on f5 and I won).

Theoretically, 3.Nc3 Nf6 is good for White.

This can also be played as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit in the Dutch Defense (1.d4 f5 2.e4?! d6?), though 2...fxe4 is by far stronger.

ChessBoy513

Aug 1, 2019

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#3

ThrillerFan님이 썼습니다:

It is not called the DutchPirc and you did NOT invent it.

It has been known for ages, and I even played it one time back in the early 2000s against an 1800 player over the board who was clueless against odd openings.

It is called the Balogh Countergambit. 3.Nc3 Nf6 is the main line. Taking on f5 or advancing is inferior (my opponent took on f5 and I won).

Theoretically, 3.Nc3 Nf6 is good for White.

This can also be played as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit in the Dutch Defense (1.d4 f5 2.e4?! d6?), though 2...fxe4 is by far stronger.

Uh but how could have I known that? It was never one of the most popular openings and were overwhelmed by Pirc

ChessBoy513

Aug 1, 2019

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ThrillerFan님이 썼습니다:

It is not called the DutchPirc and you did NOT invent it.

It has been known for ages, and I even played it one time back in the early 2000s against an 1800 player over the board who was clueless against odd openings.

It is called the Balogh Countergambit. 3.Nc3 Nf6 is the main line. Taking on f5 or advancing is inferior (my opponent took on f5 and I won).

Theoretically, 3.Nc3 Nf6 is good for White.

This can also be played as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit in the Dutch Defense (1.d4 f5 2.e4?! d6?), though 2...fxe4 is by far stronger.

Yes I knew they were inferior that's why I chose Nc3 Nf6 as standard

ChessBoy513

Aug 1, 2019

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#5

ThrillerFan님이 썼습니다:

It is not called the DutchPirc and you did NOT invent it.

It has been known for ages, and I even played it one time back in the early 2000s against an 1800 player over the board who was clueless against odd openings.

It is called the Balogh Countergambit. 3.Nc3 Nf6 is the main line. Taking on f5 or advancing is inferior (my opponent took on f5 and I won).

Theoretically, 3.Nc3 Nf6 is good for White.

This can also be played as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit in the Dutch Defense (1.d4 f5 2.e4?! d6?), though 2...fxe4 is by far stronger.

It can't be a countergambit since f5 is protected. Should be called Balogh attack

goldenpiggy1

Aug 1, 2019

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#6

what is this again?

NM dpnorman

Aug 1, 2019

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#7

1. d4 f5 2. Nc3 d6 3. e4 same position, and on Nf6 you can definitely take on f5, go Bd3 with advantage, many other things you can do. Not a very good opening but anything's playable in blitz or at class level

ThrillerFan

Aug 1, 2019

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#8

ChessBoy513 wrote:

ThrillerFan님이 썼습니다:

It is not called the DutchPirc and you did NOT invent it.

It has been known for ages, and I even played it one time back in the early 2000s against an 1800 player over the board who was clueless against odd openings.

It is called the Balogh Countergambit. 3.Nc3 Nf6 is the main line. Taking on f5 or advancing is inferior (my opponent took on f5 and I won).

Theoretically, 3.Nc3 Nf6 is good for White.

This can also be played as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit in the Dutch Defense (1.d4 f5 2.e4?! d6?), though 2...fxe4 is by far stronger.

Uh but how could have I known that? It was never one of the most popular openings and were overwhelmed by Pirc

You could actually search using this thing called the Internet. Been around for 26 years (24 to the public)!

ThrillerFan

Aug 1, 2019

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#9

ChessBoy513 wrote:

ThrillerFan님이 썼습니다:

It is not called the DutchPirc and you did NOT invent it.

It has been known for ages, and I even played it one time back in the early 2000s against an 1800 player over the board who was clueless against odd openings.

It is called the Balogh Countergambit. 3.Nc3 Nf6 is the main line. Taking on f5 or advancing is inferior (my opponent took on f5 and I won).

Theoretically, 3.Nc3 Nf6 is good for White.

This can also be played as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit in the Dutch Defense (1.d4 f5 2.e4?! d6?), though 2...fxe4 is by far stronger.

It can't be a countergambit since f5 is protected. Should be called Balogh attack

While I don't know all the theory of this clown defense because I gave up on it ages ago, I seem to recall the reason why it got the title "Counter-Gambit" is that it started off as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit (1.d4 f5 2.e4 d6) and there was a specific line that Balogh favored that did entail Black giving up a pawn .

ChessBoy513

Aug 1, 2019

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#10

ThrillerFan님이 썼습니다:

ChessBoy513 wrote:

ThrillerFan님이 썼습니다:

It is not called the DutchPirc and you did NOT invent it.

It has been known for ages, and I even played it one time back in the early 2000s against an 1800 player over the board who was clueless against odd openings.

It is called the Balogh Countergambit. 3.Nc3 Nf6 is the main line. Taking on f5 or advancing is inferior (my opponent took on f5 and I won).

Theoretically, 3.Nc3 Nf6 is good for White.

This can also be played as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit in the Dutch Defense (1.d4 f5 2.e4?! d6?), though 2...fxe4 is by far stronger.

It can't be a countergambit since f5 is protected. Should be called Balogh attack

While I don't know all the theory of this clown defense because I gave up on it ages ago, I seem to recall the reason why it got the title "Counter-Gambit" is that it started off as a way to decline the Staunton Gambit (1.d4 f5 2.e4 d6) and there was a specific line that Balogh favored that did entail Black giving up a pawn .

That's what I thought