You missed a tactic on move 10.
Danish Gambit
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GotGoose wrote:
You missed a tactic on move 10.
Which one?
I couldn't have taken his queen because
10. Qxd8 B4+ 11. Kf1 Rxd8 - and it's quite the normal game
Oops, missed that one because I only glanced at it. My bad!
Why not 13.Bxh8 ?
Fritz 11 says the position is about equal after 8... c6.
g6 is a mistake. Black's king is safe after 10... Kg8. After Kg8 your bishop sacrifice is wasted.
Ba3 is a blunder because you could have played Bxh8.
eXcellion wrote:
GotGoose wrote:
You missed a tactic on move 10. Which one? I couldn't have taken his queen because
10. Qxd8 B4+ 11. Kf1 Rxd8 - and it's quite the normal game
thats not correct, he can play the queen back and cover for the king, so if i he takes the queen he wins a piece
GotGoose wrote:
Fritz 11 says the position is about equal after 8... c6. g6 is a mistake. Black's king is safe after 10... Kg8. After Kg8 your bishop sacrifice is wasted. Ba3 is a blunder because you could have played Bxh8.
Then the situation must have been different in chess mentor : /
Reallly, it showed a situation of the danish, in which, you could really mate black if he made a mistake, isn't there someone who can just post the moves done in chess mentor?
And I know that I could have taken the rook, but I was pretty sure there was something better, like mate ^^
I found the chess mentor you were looking at. Here's the correct move sequence:
ThQ - that's the one I was looking for.
(What exactly is Fritz 11 - something like a great chess engine? ^^)
That's the chess program I was inputting the moves into to create a pgn file. And yes, it's a very nice chess engine.
Why can't he take the knight?
9... gxf6 10. Qxd8+ Kxd8 11. Bxf6+ Ke8 12. Bxh8
10... Kxf6 Qxd8+
7.Nxd5 is bad. (7. Bxf7+ is standard; 7. Ke2 is okay, 7. Nd2 is not good, 7. Kf1 is bad - unlike in some other danish accepted lines)
The correct response to 7. Nxd5 is 7...Nd7 and then c3, -+.
normajeanyates wrote:
7.Nxd5 is bad. (7. Bxf7+ is standard; 7. Ke2 is okay, 7. Nd2 is not good, 7. Kf1 is bad - unlike in some other danish accepted lines) The correct response to 7. Nxd5 is 7...Nd7 and then c3, -+.
Actually, it's not quite that simple. And I wouldn't say that 7.Nd5 is bad...just an alternative to Bxf7+. In your line, for instance, after 7. Nd5 Nd7 8. Nf3 c6 (I assume you meant this since c3 isn't possible) 9. O-O cd 10. ed and black's game isn't so easy. For instance, 10...Be7 allows 11. Bxg7 Rg8 12. Bb2 Nb6 13. Qd3 Qxd5 14. Qxh7 followed by 15. Rfe1. White's got airborne threats of Ba3 and Rad1 so black has to be careful, e.g. 14...Rg4 15. Qh8+ Bf8 16. Ba3!
There are plenty of other 10th moves for black, of course, but (in general) if white gets to displace black's king with an e-file check combined with the pawn on d5 (moves of black's f8 bishop allow Bxg7) he's starting to accumulate some compensation for his material deficit.
yes i meant c6 (i meant P-QB3 of course! A plague on Algebraic Notation! :) )
true, the non-schteleter lines in this almost-schteleter var are much disputed as to merit ... I shouldn't have been so commital in my prev post.
Hi,
I'm quite interested in the Danish Gambit and I know that there is a deadly mistake for black in the gambit, that leads to mate - 8. ... c6
This might not be the precise way to get to that situation, even though I think it is : ) - could someone help me find the correct way to mate.
This is how it should look - but I'm stuck then
I know it's all wrong, but I'm 100% sure there is a way.. I saw it in the chess mentor, but my time ran out while I was looking at it, which I didn't really like (duh! xD ) - therefore, please help me ^^