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thaynethomas

So I tend to play gambits Elephant, Danish, on occasion King's or Queen's.
But the issue is I can play a fair game when my opponent is willing to trade and fight me toe to toe, but when Solomon plays an opening that is more defensive say Rat for a non specific example I am caught off guard and almost always enter the mid game with poor positioning to try and crack a defense.
My question is what would be some good defensive openings for a gambit player like me or at least some e4 openings to deal with defensive openings.
Your Obedient
Thayne Thomas Keele

corum

There is no reason why you shouldn't continue playing the King's Gambit, for example. But after 1. e4 e5 2. f4 you have to be prepared for moves such as d6 and not just assume your opponent will accept your gambit. Study games that start 1. e4 e5 2. f4 d6. Use explorer on chess.com. For example, the most popular continuations in explorer are Nf3 and Nc3 so try those moves. There is a GM on chess.com that has a whole range of videos about playing the King's Gambit and he covers lines such 1. e4 e5 2. f4 d6.

thaynethomas

Forgive me I was asking for defensive openings that would suit the style of a player who likes gambits, so I can have something ready when my opponent dose not try and take the center.

Again forgive me for a fool I should have been clearer.

Your Obedient,

Thayne Thomas Keele

thaynethomas

I am sorry for my stupidity, I should be more clear I merely wish for recommendations for defenses for when as you said white dose not come to the middle of the board or in the case that I am playing black a defense that I can set up should the need arise. Though i will of course look into your counsel I am sure there is a great deal to be learned studying it.
In short I was just hoping for recommendations of defensive openings that I could then study and perhaps employ. 
Again forgive my ineptitude I did not intend to confuse, and again thank you. 

Your Obedient,

Thayne Thomas Keele

cfour_explosive
DeirdreSkye wrote:

Can you reread it please , and be less polite and more specific because we both have only one lifetime and no resources for cryogenic preservation?

grin.png that was actually quite funny.

but seriously... OP is probably the most polite guy I've ever seen in this forum, but I have to say I don't understand his question that well either lol

 

I think you might want to have a look at the Pirc defense as black thaynethomas, it's very solid but also creates imbalances so the games can be quite exciting still. but as DeirdreSkye said, you cannot expect to have one opening against every response by your opponent, you just have to adapt to your opponent. If your opponent plays a move you are not prepared for, just stick to opening principles (develope your pieces etc etc) and you should be fine at your level happy.png

have a nice day!

thaynethomas

Ok I will try, all I hoped for was a recommendation on a few openings that do not rely on my opponent to preform a specific reaction, if my opponent doesn't advance past there 3rd rank I end up a little lost and confused. 

I am sorry for all the fuss. I will look into Pirc. Thank you

thaynethomas

Well it seems the only thing that is clear is that I have no career in writing.

But Bobby either would be good, I will admit that all I was expecting was a few curt try blank openings. I am shocked to get more than that in response.

DeirdSkye sorry to have caused you such stress that was never my intent.

Kmatta

I think he plays hypermodern openings as Black and wants recommendations against more conservative approaches. Or he plays a lot of gambits, but wants an opening as Black that does not gambit. I don't know. Maybe one of these are right...

m_n0

I think what I'm understanding is that you want openings that you can play regardless of what your opponent does. Chess is all about reacting to what your opponent is doing, so such things don't tend to go so well. The closest thing to an answer to the question I think you're asking would be some sort of Stonewall set-up.

cfour_explosive
thaynethomas wrote:

Ok I will try, all I hoped for was a recommendation on a few openings that do not rely on my opponent to preform a specific reaction, if my opponent doesn't advance past there 3rd rank I end up a little lost and confused. 

I am sorry for all the fuss. I will look into Pirc. Thank you

ok now I understand grin.png yeah, so my recommendation was actually valid - the Pirc is playable against many 1. e4 replies. the hedgehog defense might also be worth looking into - it seems passive at first, but later on the games can heaten up. against 1. d4 the stonewall dutch might be an option.

and if you are playing white and your opponent is giving you all the space - just take the space and develope your pieces, get castled and attack him wink.png

thaynethomas

Hi, this is Thayne's wife, he asked me to translate His comments into English.

Essentially Thayne is having the issue of

Thayne: Opens with gambit

Opponent: Ignores gambit and develops defense instead

Thayne: has no idea what to do

I am not a chess player, so hopefully that's at least semi-helpful to you people.

Sincerely the fun one

The Fun One

P.S. From Thayne: H4 Explosive, I will look into pirc and hedgehog, thank you

kindaspongey
thaynethomas wrote:

... all I hoped for was a recommendation on a few openings that do not rely on my opponent to preform a specific reaction, ...

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"One particular approach to opening repertoire management is the use of universal systems, ... The use of such systems can enable a player to reduce the amount of opening theory he needs to study, and to reach positions of a type he is familiar with and enjoys playing. It is to the pros and cons of this approach that we now turn. ... it is rather more difficult for Black to adopt a universal system, ... The most popular one ... I will discuss in the next section. ... I refer to the King's Indian/Pirc/Modern complex. These lines are characterized by a kingside fianchetto, with such moves as ...g6, ...Bg7, ....d6, ...Nf6, etc. ... The lack of early central contact ... means that there is little chance of violent early contact knocking the player out of his preferred scheme. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2003)

"... If you choose the Pirc against 1 e4, it makes sense to consider the King's Indian against 1 d4. This is more flexible and will give you additional options later. ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)

If I remember correctly, GM Seirawan suggested this sort of thing in Winning Chess Openings.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf
Also discussed in A Practical Black Repertoire with Nf6, g6, d6
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7655.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7632.pdf