Does London System take skill or any theory? what do you think

thats exactly what i would know about! =)

That's an utter lie!

It is not hated by high level players. Carlsen has played it as White many times, and high level players have absolutely no objection facing it for the same reason that they have no objection facing the Exchange Variation if they play the French Defense. EASY EQUALITY!

It's just immature amateurs that whine and gripe about the London System.

Can concur. I used to dislike the london system, then I found my own response to it. Love it, never had an issue with the opening ever again.

It is a bit anoying

the dutch setups can be quite great agianst the london

Not that great if white understands what he is doing.

Actually 3.Nf3 is already not the most accurate approach.

https://www.modern-chess.com/positional-repertoire-against-the-dutch-defence

London system must be hard right?

London System is being played at WCC right now. 😥😥

It's not hated by high level players.

Great, and fun opening, with a great deal of evolving contemporary theory. Transposes into variations of Queen's gambit as you go along... case to case of course, and it's useful to learn Richter /Veresov to accompany it. Lots of people fear 1d4, which leads to all the hate. Annoys you? Good. Don't study it. Lol. 1d4 .

it exists for the 1200 autistic kid to play while bobbing his head up and down smiling

and gms use it to draw or to not be attacked in the middlegame.

black takes a huge risk trying to attack in it and if he tries all of a sudden white can achive easy counterplay and win

Only with secret chess. Black tries to attack but the knight is stuck or moves to a strange square. All you can do really is just wait and lose.

There are a few famous wins with the London... including the most recent world chess championship game.

Maybe one way to think of it... the better you get, the longer you can fight in a game.

For many players, if someone isn't worse by move 15, then the game becomes confusing, because they don't know anything about strategy or endgames. They feel like there's nothing to do anymore.

Stronger players fight even in the endgame, and the more experienced you are, the more ways you find to do it... for example, less experienced players rarely choose to stay in a position where there are 3 or 2 pieces each i.e. they'll trade down to 1 each or a pawn endgame right away. A more experienced player, if there are ways to fight, will fight you at 4 and at 3 and at 2 etc.

But yeah, that's all the London complaining is... "I'm not winning/losing by move 15, and neither of us has an obvious mating attack, so there's nothing to do in this position and I hate it."

But it's funny how they believe GMs think the same way... "highly skilled players hate the london" and "GMs use it to draw." lol. No.

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Yes, clearly GMs use it to draw. Ding didn't mean to win this game. He clearly meant to draw, because he played the London.

Exactly and a shame his drawing plans didn't ... go as intended 😁

Hahaha, the London players are losing their minds about the recent match.

Yeah, the nepo suicide watch has already started. You let London in, it never stops. Guess what Ding is going to play as white next, and the next, and the next.