does the Scandinavian actually work??
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beaverchess45
May 28, 2023
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I’ve been doing a little observing, and I realized when opponents play the Scandinavian I usually rip open their defenses really quickly, and they bring out the queen too early. These are not very good tactics, and it just makes me wonder whether the Scandinavian is even a good defense. It’s not really a defense if it rips open your defenses, but it’s so popular and most of my opponents play it. Whoever clears this up the best will be given a trophy.
At the beginner level, yes- they’re probably losing because they keep blundering and making mistakes. At the higher levels, absolutely not. These people now know how to easily punish early queen moves and gain a significant advantage. Either way, the Scandinavian is somewhat dubious to some level. I find the big 4 (Sicilian, e5, French, Caro-Kann) much better.
Scandinavian is a little sus. Playable, but sus….
May 28, 2023
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TheSampson, did you get your trophy? Anyway, thanks for explaining things.
May 28, 2023
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You are likely breaking their defenses easily because they don't really know what to do after bringing their Queen most of the time. I am guessing many people that olay Scandi against you give you a check if you are playing Nc3 after Qxd5. And now white can harass the opponents queen even more.
At the higher levels it wouldn't be prefereable to the other major responses to e4 I am sure.
beaverchess45 wrote:
TheSampson, did you get your trophy? Anyway, thanks for explaining things.
Yeah, no problem
The Qe5+ lines are known as the Patzer variation. I play the mainline Qa5 Scandinavian and the real reason it is not played at higher levels is that white can make exchanges that put black in a hard endgame.
May 28, 2023
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chessterd5 yazdı:
The Qe5+ lines are known as the Patzer variation. I play the mainline Qa5 Scandinavian and the real reason it is not played at higher levels is that white can make exchanges that put black in a hard endgame.
Yeah lmao, and then they try to grab your g pawn which is poisoned and then they have to deal with a massive attack.
Jun 17, 2023
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OnTheRunFromCubanPolice said:
Yeah Iamo, and then they try to grab your g pawn which is poisoned and then they have to deal with a massive attack.
I haven’t gone into big study on the Scandinavian, but I know a fair amount about it and I’m not quite sure…
Yeah Iamo, and then they try to grab your g pawn which is poisoned and then they have to deal with a massive attack.
I haven’t gone into big study on the Scandinavian, but I know a fair amount about it and I’m not quite sure…
The modern Scandinavian is pretty good though. It's quite aggressive but not dubious
Jun 17, 2023
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PotatoesAndChess wrote:
The modern Scandinavian is pretty good though. It’s quite aggressive but not dubious
Can you post some examples of it? I’ve never heard of it…
The modern Scandinavian is pretty good though. It’s quite aggressive but not dubious
Can you post some examples of it? I’ve never heard of it…
I believe the Modern Scandinavian is where black plays 2…Nf6 instead of 2…Qxd5
Interestingly, I think the computer actually prefers the move 2…c6, which is the Blackburne-Kloosterboer Gambit, with 3. dxc6 Nxc6
The Scandinavian is fine--if Black knows what he's doing. Check out the Youtube videos of IM John Bartholomew. He employs the Scandinavian regularly with great success, and he's very good at explaining the reasoning behind the opening.
Pro tip: after 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 he doesn't play Qe5+
beaverchess45 wrote:
I’ve been doing a little observing, and I realized when opponents play the Scandinavian I usually rip open their defenses really quickly, and they bring out the queen too early. These are not very good tactics, and it just makes me wonder whether the Scandinavian is even a good defense. It’s not really a defense if it rips open your defenses, but it’s so popular and most of my opponents play it. Whoever clears this up the best will be given a trophy.
U r 389...
Scandanavian is fine for black, I personally don't see why people play it as it gives white comfotable positions but its still fine
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
AFAIK the Qd6 scandi is sound
Ye I hate facing the qd6 scandi the most. I’m very happy playing against the Qd8 or Qa5 Scandinavian
beaverchess45 wrote:
I’ve been doing a little observing, and I realized when opponents play the Scandinavian I usually rip open their defenses really quickly, and they bring out the queen too early. These are not very good tactics, and it just makes me wonder whether the Scandinavian is even a good defense. It’s not really a defense if it rips open your defenses, but it’s so popular and most of my opponents play it. Whoever clears this up the best will be given a trophy.
While taking with the queen is the main line, there are other lines that work better.
