I wanna pick up something fun against d4 and I since i like attacking positions I'm gonna try the dutch. But what do you guys think? What should I study and what do I need to know going into this.
KID is great if you want to learn how to attack
I wanna pick up something fun against d4 and I since i like attacking positions I'm gonna try the dutch. But what do you guys think? What should I study and what do I need to know going into this.
KID is great if you want to learn how to attack
The Dutch Defense is a good practical choice for getting most 1. d4 players out of their comfort zone and this opening can be a nice attacking weapon for black.
I'm always a bit hesitant with openings I don't believe are best (1...f5 weakens your King on literally move 1 and although this opening is sometimes used at the world-class level, it is rare and not typically the primary opening of a repertoire), but this opening can be great for a practical choice and it is "solid enough" that you can score great success with it.
If you want to learn the Dutch Defense, I recommend going over Master games because this is an opening about common motifs and attacking patterns. The move order doesn't matter as much as sharper openings.
There are several kinds of Dutch 1 d4 f5
Leningrad Dutch with 2...g6
Classical Dutch with 2...e6 and without ...d5
Stonewall Dutch with 2...e6 and with ...d5
I play the Dutch, it is good fun. Best thing to do is start classical Dutch study, Stonewall study, then Leningrad last as this is the largest difference from the first two. Make sure you are aware of 2.e4 Staunton, 2.h3 Korchnoi, 2. g4 Keres gambits. Other than that the normal attacks happen in each of the main variations. There are a couple more sidelines but just look at Gingergm videos, Hanging Pawns videos and GmNeiksans chess for the Leningrad. This should give you a good grounding in the theory.
If you like the Dutch Defense better than the Nimzo-Indian Defense, or King's Indian Defense, then great, but I wouldn't saying it is "in better." The Nimzo-Indian is objectively more solid in my opinion than the Dutch Defense. It has rich theory, just like the Dutch Defense, but the Nimzo-Indian isn't weakening the black King with ...f5. The main "drawback" of the Nimzo-Indian is that it usually gives up the Bishop Pair on c3, but this is an imbalance and theory confirms that both sides have an imbalanced battle ahead which is about equal if both sides know what they are doing.
What do you play as Black against 1. e4?
If it's the French Defense, then you should probably enter the Dutch via 1. d4 e6 2. c4 f5 - since as a French Defense player you won't be concerned about 1. d4 e6 2. e4 d5 transposing to an opening that you already play anyway. This move-order avoids the gambits such as the Staunton.
What do you play as Black against 1. e4?
If it's the French Defense, then you should probably enter the Dutch via 1. d4 e6 2. c4 f5 - since as a French Defense player you won't be concerned about 1. d4 e6 2. e4 d5 transposing to an opening that you already play anyway. This move-order avoids the gambits such as the Staunton.
i play the carokann, and against the advance i play nc6 online and e6 otb if that helps
I play the Dutch, it is good fun. Best thing to do is start classical Dutch study, Stonewall study, then Leningrad last as this is the largest difference from the first two. Make sure you are aware of 2.e4 Staunton, 2.h3 Korchnoi, 2. g4 Keres gambits. Other than that the normal attacks happen in each of the main variations. There are a couple more sidelines but just look at Gingergm videos, Hanging Pawns videos and GmNeiksans chess for the Leningrad. This should give you a good grounding in the theory.
the korchnoi is as actually really underrated
What do you play as Black against 1. e4?
If it's the French Defense, then you should probably enter the Dutch via 1. d4 e6 2. c4 f5 - since as a French Defense player you won't be concerned about 1. d4 e6 2. e4 d5 transposing to an opening that you already play anyway. This move-order avoids the gambits such as the Staunton.
This is exactly what I do!
If you are a Dutch and French player, this not only avoids the gambits, but 2.Bg5 and 2. Bc3 as well. 2.Bg5 hangs the Bishop and 2.Nc3 you play 2...d5 and you end up in a Frenxh (3.e4) or Jobava (3.Bf4).
If you are looking at the Leningrad, you will want to study Vladimir Malaniuk, Stefan Kindermann, Valeri Beim, Hikaru Nakamura and Gata Kamsky's (Title Tuesday) games. As far as the main line is concerned, the two most common or fashionable moves are 7...Qe8 and 7...c6.
When it comes to books, if you are considering the 7...Qe8 line, Stefan Kindermann, Mihail Marin, and Vladimir Malaniuk have books out on that line. If you are looking at the 7...c6 line Adrien Demuth and Tibor Karolyi have books that cover those lines.
Prepare for the Anti-Dutch lines before you look at the main lines. I've faced more early e3's and Bf4's than anything close to the Main Line.
I have a modest thread here on my experiences with the Dutch Classical, and some oher variations: Dutch, Classical variation (A96). What are your experiences? - Schaakforums - Chess.com
I agree that to avoid some annoying gambits and 2. Nc3 or 2.Bg5, to answer on 1. d4 first wtih e6, providing you want to play a French of course.
I wanna pick up something fun against d4 and I since i like attacking positions I'm gonna try the dutch. But what do you guys think? What should I study and what do I need to know going into this.
I play the Leningrad. Really fun; I recommend you to download the Malaniuk and Marin opening guides. They clearly point out the main Ideas throughout hundreds of master games. You can also check my games to see.
I wanna pick up something fun against d4 and I since i like attacking positions I'm gonna try the dutch. But what do you guys think? What should I study and what do I need to know going into this.