e4 Vs d4

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I agree with your post I just didn’t notice the last 4 pages sorry
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DrewGainer wrote:
I play d4 because I’m really bad at tactics and prefer a positional game, which I know has already been mentioned

Tactical shots can come in any closed position. Likewise, some of the main lines of the slow Italian or Ruy can bore people to death with all the slow maneuvering.

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The only real difference is that 1:e4 opens up 2 pieces instead of one, and 1d4 starts with a defender. so which is better? It depends on what you want to play.

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hard to say that either one is better than the other, everything depends on what openings you play after the first move. But in my experience, d4 players are passive who are happy with a draw, while e4 players tend to be more attacking.

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d4 players are people who understand the strategic aspects of the game (not including triangle system players - those we disown), while e4 players are fine with a hot mess. wink.png

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e4 for aggresive players. d4 for defensive players

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according to computer e4 best

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YidingL1 wrote:

according to computer e4 best

Don't use computer on openings

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well ummm ok?

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1.e4 or 1.d4 – which is the better move?

While the conclusions reached by the author in the following Chessbase.com article are generally acknowledged to be correct, an important point not clearly made is that 1.d4 games are typically positional, maneuvering in style versus 1.e4 games many of which tend to be tactical in character. This puts a premium on proficiency in positional concepts and techniques when playing 1.d4 games whereas in many cases 1.e4 games (particularly the so-called 'Open Games') rely more heavily on tactical skill. These considerations generally mean that players, typically the beginner-novice, who are not as skilled in, or comfortable with positional chess would wisely be advised to focus more on the king pawn games...

https://en.chessbase.com/post/1-e4-or-1-d4-which-is-the-better-move#:~:text=e4%20is%20an%20attacking%20move,likely%20to%20end%20in%20draws

https://chessfox.com/13-different-types-of-chess-openings/

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1015858

Chess Openings Resources for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/openings-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

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1.d4 best by test. AlphaZero

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Stockfish says 1.e4, Alphazero says 1.d4, this world is confusing. deal with it.

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Computers are known to be worse than human theory in openings, so we cant use computer eval on the first move.

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My computer says your computer is a big dummy!

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     1.e4 is better for young players learning the game as it is generally more tactical and developing tactical ability is the first thing novices need. 1.d4 leads to games where positional play is a greater factor. This is better for those whose tactical abilities are not as strong, and for those desiring to improve their positional play. After trying both, most players predominately use the one in which they are most comfortable. For professionals, varying according to opponent or circumstances, or just to catch the other player by surprise, is usual.

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JackRoach wrote:
YidingL1 wrote:

according to computer e4 best

Don't use computer on openings

why not? so you're saying the grob isn't bad?

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I thought it was common knowledge not to use computers for evaluating openings. Apparently, I was mistaken.

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B1ZMARK wrote:

I thought it was common knowledge not to use computers for evaluating openings. Apparently, I was mistaken.

name a good opening that the computer says it's bad

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Modern defense.

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B1ZMARK wrote:

Modern defense.

computer doesn't say it's bad