tmx3 wrote:
Why is e4 the most common opening?
e4 is also known as the "King's Pawn opening" it starts very agressively, allowing White's queen and bishop to develop.
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Dec 13, 2015
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Fiveofswords wrote:
with strong players d4 is more popular. e4 is just a second rate move people play who cant handle the massive theory behind d4
don't you play the alapin?
Dec 13, 2015
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#25
cats-not-knights wrote:
Fiveofswords wrote:
with strong players d4 is more popular. e4 is just a second rate move people play who cant handle the massive theory behind d4
don't you play the alapin?
lol, good point.
Dec 13, 2015
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#26
Fiveofswords wrote:
dude the only reason i play the alapin is because im retarded
thanks god, that's a relief! I was starting to lose self confidence playing d4 trying to avoid the schliemann gambit and all the theory doesn't make you feel proud of your self!
tmx3 wrote:
You'll probably think it's amateur of me, but I don't like playing center board. I like to open up spaces in the back more quickly...sort of like "home redecorating" so their positions later help me out.
Well if you feel like Home redecorating than play the Go Diva Variation!
http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/sicilian-defence-godiva-variation
If not than I suppose you can check out the Hippo Defence.
I made an article on that as well.
http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/hippopotamus-defence
Dec 13, 2015
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#28
Yus X player is being helpful, I thought it would never happen but it did
Fiveofswords wrote:
MASS_ATTACKER wrote:
Yus X player is being helpful, I thought it would never happen but it did
you should check with pfren before making such a claim. im pretty sure pfren still thinks xplayer is a moron so you should as well.
Dude, when you are running out of drugs , you really shouldn't be using the old, expired ones.
Rumo75 wrote:
Chess generally tends to become more exciting when you understand it better. Playing opening moves that are simply bad doesn't help in that regard. If you don't like the look of 1.e4, try 1.d4. And respond to 1.e4 with something other than 1...e5, you could for example try the Caro-Kann (1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5). In my view it's just important, at least for learning purpose, to play in the centre of the board.
Completely agree.
Also I lose track of the number of amateur players that think the opening completely defines the ensuing game. Yet they scratch their heads when I get crazy double-edged games after playing stuff like the Rubinstein French, and they play a bunch of moves in the Sicilian Nadjorf, then run out of theory, misplay the position and the game fizzles out to a draw.
I guess my point is, at lower levels, how 'exciting' the game is is defined by the inaccuracies made by either side, rather than the opening (as they might perhaps be at the top level).
"... For players with very limited experience, I recommend using openings in which the play can be clarified at an early stage, often with a degree of simplification. To accomplish this safely will take a little study, because you will have to get used to playing wiith open lines for both sides' pieces, but you can't eliminate risk entirely in the opening anyway. ... teachers all over the world suggest that inexperienced players begin with 1 e4. ... You will undoubtedly see the reply 1 ... e5 most often when playing at or near a beginner's level, ... After 2 Nf3, 2 ... Nc6 will occur in the bulk of your games. ... I recommend taking up the classical and instructive move 3 Bc4 at an early stage. Then, against 3 ... Bc5, it's thematic to try to establish the ideal centre by 4 c3 and 5 d4; after that, things can get complicated enough that you need to take a look at some theory and learn the basics; ... Of course, you can also play 1 d4 ... A solid and more-or-less universal set-up is 2 Nf3 and 3 Bf4, followed in most cases by 4 e3, 5 Be2 and 6 0-0. I'd rather see my students fight their way through open positions instead; however, if you're not getting out of the opening alive after 1 e4, this method of playing 1 d4 deserves consideration. ... a commonly suggested 'easy' repertoire for White with 1 Nf3 and the King's indian Attack ... doesn't lead to an open game or one with a clear plan for White. Furthermore, it encourages mechanical play. Similarly, teachers sometimes recommend the Colle System ..., which can also be played too automatically, and usually doesn't lead to an open position. For true beginners, the King's Indian Attack and Colle System have the benefit of offering a safe position that nearly guarantees passage to some kind of playable middlegame; they may be a reasonable alternative if other openings are too intimidating. But having gained even a small amount of experience, you really should switch to more open and less automatic play." - IM John Watson in a section of his 2010 book, Mastering the Chess Openings, Volume 4
Dec 13, 2015
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#33
1. d4 boring, 1. c4 more boring, 1. Nf3 I can barely stay awake, 1. e4 exciting, makes the blood surge through your body.
Recent archeological digs revealed that there was someone in ancient times, named Bobby Fisch?? who played 1. e4 and won a lot of games, but I don't put much credence in that report.
Dec 14, 2015
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#34
Peppinu wrote:
tmx3 wrote:
Rumo75 wrote:
Chess generally tends to become more exciting when you understand it better. Playing opening moves that are simply bad doesn't help in that regard. If you don't like the look of 1.e4, try 1.d4. And respond to 1.e4 with something other than 1...e5, you could for example try the Caro-Kann (1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5). In my view it's just important, at least for learning purpose, to play in the centre of the board.
You'll probably think it's amateur of me, but I don't like playing center board. I like to open up spaces in the back more quickly...sort of like "home redecorating" so their positions later help me out.
I think you should dye your hair blond...
Wowwwww, was that supposed to be a diss? There are blondes way smarter than you so please take a seat somewhere and by that I mean please stay away from my topics/threads and posting on them. Thanks.
Dec 14, 2015
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#35
Draebi wrote:
1. d4 boring, 1. c4 more boring, 1. Nf3 I can barely stay awake, 1. e4 exciting, makes the blood surge through your body.
Recent archeological digs revealed that there was someone in ancient times, named Bobby Fisch?? who played 1. e4 and won a lot of games, but I don't put much credence in that report.
Interesting choice of words to describe e4. I don't know, I would like it if it wasn't played so often. Being redundantly played, it's as if you always know what's coming up next.
Dec 14, 2015
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#36
Fiveofswords wrote:
chess probably seems very exciting if you are still a virgin.
Don't know why but this made me laugh.
Coach's recommend 1.e4 games because of several different reasons.
1- Usually in 1.e4 games the positions are more open. In open positions you have greater chance of having tactics in them!
Coachs often tell students to study tactics using a tactic trainer!
Thus, The logic being used is to have the student study tactics + play positions which help increase the chances of tactics happening.
The combine effect helps students grow over all more better.
2- Games which start with 1.e4 have been very deeply looked at/studied for hundreds of years.
Bascially coachs try to have students follow a path which millions of people have followed through out history.
The benefit of such a process helps in improvement!
The student is able to research positions and find mistakes in such position's because of all the information which has been provided by history.
Bascially to put it short.
It is better to be confused and lost in a position which is well known than to be confused and lost in a position no one has ever seen.
The reason why is because people can help you get unlost in a well known position than they could in one never seen before.
Which is very important when you are first starting out.
3- The last thing which I think is very important about 1.e4 games is one of Historical importance!
You know a lot of historical Grand Masters and title players believed the move 1.e4 was very good.
Now I am not here to agrue weather they was right or wrong.
The fact is the historical title players many of them believed it to be true.
They believed it so much so that many of them only played 1.e4 games.
Now if you believe 1.d4, 1.c4, or even 1.Nf3 is better that is completely fine.
You believe this in 2015.
However, title players in 1500's didn't lol.
Which means when you look at GM games from the past in 1.d4 openings you may run into a problem.
The problem is none may exist!
It is better to play positions other people have played in the past.
So you can see what to do and it can give you idea's etc.
As a beginner you are going to want to look at some of the famous Immortal games.
If you play positions which happen similar to some famous games it helps you grow etc.
I think its a good idea to play 1.e4 games when your a beginner.
So many resources are given in 1.e4 games!
You know you don't have to play 1.e4 games all your life.
Play it till you get about 1400 in ranking.
Once you become an intermidate player than play what ever you want!
Peppinu wrote:
I think you should dye your hair blond...
Terrible advice!
She has dark eyes and dark eye lashes.
If she dyed her hair completely blonde she would look ugly.
Best bet would be if she added blonde highlights in her hair.
It would make her eyes pop.
Would look sexy!
She could try curls as an alternative to coloring her hair with some eyeliner
Would look nice.
It is obvious you do not know fashion!
CM = Cosmetic Muppet!
What do we know about the history of 1.e4? Was it the dominant first move going back to the mists of Indian chess or wherever? (Although if you go far enough back, as I recall, pawns couldn't move two squares on the first move.)
When did 1.d4 start catching up?
Do we have any statistics on young players who played the Colle as novices? Was their development damaged?
I'll try that! Thanks, Rumo!!