END your 1.d4/London/closed game/positional woes forever with 1.d4 e5!? 2.dxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6!

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1983B-Boy wrote:

i've tried them and have lost pretty much every game with them. I like my bishops central and mobile, not locked into one diagonal. they can't multitask. I just don't like them, but will have to learn to some if I'm going to double danish

as to the stats, 10 is a small sampling, but my point is I'm beating the odds even in the "weakest line". the games are just playing chess. I'm finding the mobility I need to counter attack. that's my point. I don;t play for pawn endings, and if I did, I'd lose them anyways. I play to get the job done in under 20.

I can't wait to test drive my double danish goering theory! the DD in particular reminds me a lot of this, but with maximum openess and simplicity. It looks much better than the Nxc3 main line which looks more like a complicated 4 knights.

speed and mobility are not to be underestimated and even 2000+ players make mistakes. it's just my job to play more accurately. I can do that when a position is based on attacking principles... my bread and butter, what I understand.

it was fun following danish games and often guessing the correct next attacking move. like the hartlaub charlick, I'm watching games thinking "oh, I get THIS!" and liking the super wide open queenside to wiggle around in

Fair point.

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scandi sucks!

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I like playing against the London these days.

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well... I just found an IMPROVEMENT to the 2.d5 sideline push I have been overlooking! Bxf2+ OMG! that's my favorite tactic! I don't even IMAGINE it as black from all of that stonewall soul crushing over 20 years. I've given up on trying to attack as black?!

all three opponents would have allowed that too! now that I realize my bishop on c5 is a c5 bishop, Bxf7+ is now an option. THAT's why it gets developed there where it looks awkward and trappable, especially after ...d6 locks it out.

i'm really trying to permanently remember this... my ONLY tactical asset, so far in this line. you know how much club players LOVE knight pins!

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Kyobir wrote:

scandi sucks!

not looking for an argument, are you? you won't get one, other than you forgot to call it toothless

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I'm not saying black played the best moves but this kind of thing makes it a miserable game for black.

Just played, 5 mins game. White is a pawn up and black has a weak d-pawn into the bargain. White just keeps it tight and blockades the isolated pawn. 1-0 every time.

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Too bad for your point NO ONE does that

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You talking to me? I didn't think he was playing too bad til he dropped the knight. Black can do nothing in such positions, which is why it maybe loses by force or else it's very close..

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Yeah... never seen Bf4 yet

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1983B-Boy wrote:

Yeah... never seen Bf4 yet

Because a lot of people don't know how to play positionally.

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devnje wrote:

For d4 i prefer King's Indian defense. Almost all GMs play it. It is very very strong. Engine also prefers it

Very complex so, like the Grunfeld, it suits GMs. However, every decent player has their preferred line against it, which they should know better than the KID player. Some like the Samisch or the Averbakh. I always play the Classical, with c4, e4, Nc3, Nf3, Be2 and O-O. In some lines, such as the Mar del Plata, 0-0 is played as a "high class waiting move".

Then there are fianchetto variations for white and of course the Four Pawns Attack, which normally transposes into a Benoni, also reachable by a Benoni move order and which is extremely strong.

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I have a lot to learn in the sidelines, but I TOTALLY earned this one playing a game with STRONG threats and pressure with the mobility to find solutions, and I'd like to think that i actually DID play SOME positional too with 91% accuracy. I think I had my eyes on the rook x ray as soon as the queen moved to the light squared diagonal and wanted to pull it off before my opponent moved their rook

after a REALLY miserable day yesterday, this was a battle only a klingon could love.
 
this is the ONLY line where I can STRING attacks together and shift targets with ease as black (in the main lines) and is even funner than king's gambit and ESPECIALLY alapin diemer francos
 
initiative solves problems too
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Playing the London was probably not a bad idea 10 years ago.

Nowadays it's not the smartest choice, since it's not only not a very challenging opening, but also Black players are usually well prepared thanks to all the streamers who just know the London...

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Very few know how to play the London. Most of my opponents play moves like Nf3 and c6, and then wonder why black equalises easily.

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Staunton Gambit plucks Dutch teeth.

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Optimissed написал:

Staunton Gambit plucks Dutch teeth.

1. e6

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Yes that's the way to play it.

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Still, I'd be tempted to call their bluff and play 2. e4. Chances are, they'll play the Rubinstein!

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Optimissed написал:

Тем не менее, у меня возникнет соблазн разоблачить их блеф и сыграть 2. e4. Скорее всего, они сыграют Рубинштейна!

Скорее всего, они так и сделают. Многие голландские защитники изучают французский только на базовом уровне. Но всегда есть шанс, что они сыграют в винауэр, так что это какие-то интеллектуальные игры. Каждая сторона надеется, что их противник не знаком с дебютом.

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lassus_dinnao wrote:
Optimissed написал:

Тем не менее, у меня возникнет соблазн разоблачить их блеф и сыграть 2. e4. Скорее всего, они сыграют Рубинштейна!

Скорее всего, они так и сделают. Многие голландские защитники изучают французский только на базовом уровне. Но всегда есть шанс, что они сыграют в винауэр, так что это какие-то интеллектуальные игры. Каждая сторона надеется, что их противник не знаком с дебютом.

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