Englund Gambit..your thoughts?
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TrickyTrickyKnight
Mar 12, 2021
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#1
Personally, I think the Englund gambit is extremely good in blitz and bullet. In long games, it is probably a terrible idea (provided you're playing a strong player).
It may be a dubious gambit..BUT it basically strips your opponent of any preparation.
A lot of people know about the classic Qb4+ trap in the englund gambit. However, this is actually not the best way to play the gambit. If played properly, you will find a LOT of depth to the englund gambit.
I would highly recommend the gambit.
i have done some research on it. if you don't play the qb4 lines, and white is practical, the best you can hope for as black is an inferior version of the open games.
Mar 13, 2021
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#4
There are better ways to start off a game, but among gambits it's not that bad. Like you said, for fast-paced games it's probably a good alternative to more mainline openings, but it's really not much more than that.
Probably the Old Benoni (1..c5) is even better, since it's not really a gambit because taking the pawn is bad for White.
Mar 13, 2021
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#6
See the video by Ashwin Chauhan on youtube on how to crush this nonsense. You will win so many games as white and black won't know what hit them. Its a 20 minute video.
I really like the Englund gambit, though higher rated opponents fend them off.
Why would anyone play this except to annoy London system players
Mar 13, 2021
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#9
You can pwn a lot of n00bs, which I mean, that's what it's all about, right?
It's kind of garbage for anyone high rated, even in blitz and bullet, since a high rated should know how to defend by heart, but newbies prolly haven't seen it, and trying to figure it out with only 3 minutes is kinda tough.
Mar 13, 2021
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#10
Guys guys, I have defeated TONS of 2200+ opponents in blitz and bullet with the Englund Gambit.......Like I said tho, it is definitely "JUNK" buuuuuut it is also a LOT of fun to play and leads to fun games.
I usually play the semi-slav defense against d4 etc and can also play indian defenses etc.
The Englund Gambit is a fun little gambit tho in my opinion, and if you master playing it, you can beat strong bullet/blitz players here with it.
You can easily get the pawn back, but you end up in a horrible position. it is garbage unless this happens
Mar 13, 2021
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#12
freerobuxman wrote:
You can easily get the pawn back, but you end up in a horrible position. it is garbage unless this happens
As I said in my post, playing the Qb4+ line is a terrible idea as most strong players will never fall for the trap. I do NOT play that line. After Bf4, I often play f6, which leads to an inferior but interesting/fun game where white has to be careful.
TheDoomSlayer992 wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
You can easily get the pawn back, but you end up in a horrible position. it is garbage unless this happens
As I said in my post, playing the Qb4+ line is a terrible idea as most strong players will never fall for the trap. I do NOT play that line. After Bf4, I often play f6, which leads to an inferior but interesting/fun game where white has to be careful.
That is terrible too. White's bishop is blocked by the queen and there isn't anything tricky at all, so black is overall worse
Mar 13, 2021
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#14
freerobuxman wrote:
TheDoomSlayer992 wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
You can easily get the pawn back, but you end up in a horrible position. it is garbage unless this happens
As I said in my post, playing the Qb4+ line is a terrible idea as most strong players will never fall for the trap. I do NOT play that line. After Bf4, I often play f6, which leads to an inferior but interesting/fun game where white has to be careful.
That is terrible too. White's bishop is blocked by the queen and there isn't anything tricky at all, so black is overall worse
I have played this line dozens of times against 2200-2300 blitz/bullet competition and actually won most games.
If you wish, we can play a game and I can show you what I mean...This variation is dubious but often leads to chaotic tactical positions where white can easily go wrong. (It is definitely a bad "junk" gambit, BUT it is very easily underestimated in my opinion.)
One of the worse possible answers to 1.d4. In a database of 4.803.615 games I have 936 games with 1.d4 e5 and whites get 63,8% in its advantage. Only 1.d4 a5?! and 1.d4 g5? are even more favourable to whites.
TheDoomSlayer992 wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
TheDoomSlayer992 wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
You can easily get the pawn back, but you end up in a horrible position. it is garbage unless this happens
As I said in my post, playing the Qb4+ line is a terrible idea as most strong players will never fall for the trap. I do NOT play that line. After Bf4, I often play f6, which leads to an inferior but interesting/fun game where white has to be careful.
That is terrible too. White's bishop is blocked by the queen and there isn't anything tricky at all, so black is overall worse
I have played this line dozens of times against 2200-2300 blitz/bullet competition and actually won most games.
If you wish, we can play a game and I can show you what I mean...This variation is dubious but often leads to chaotic tactical positions where white can easily go wrong. (It is definitely a bad "junk" gambit, BUT it is very easily underestimated in my opinion.)
What if I did this
aviation18 wrote:
I really like the Englund gambit, though higher rated opponents fend them off.
In simple words I like it as long as it is not used versus me😂
freerobuxman escreveu:
TheDoomSlayer992 wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
TheDoomSlayer992 wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
You can easily get the pawn back, but you end up in a horrible position. it is garbage unless this happens
As I said in my post, playing the Qb4+ line is a terrible idea as most strong players will never fall for the trap. I do NOT play that line. After Bf4, I often play f6, which leads to an inferior but interesting/fun game where white has to be careful.
That is terrible too. White's bishop is blocked by the queen and there isn't anything tricky at all, so black is overall worse
I have played this line dozens of times against 2200-2300 blitz/bullet competition and actually won most games.
If you wish, we can play a game and I can show you what I mean...This variation is dubious but often leads to chaotic tactical positions where white can easily go wrong. (It is definitely a bad "junk" gambit, BUT it is very easily underestimated in my opinion.)
What if I did this
4.Qd5 looks like a good option as well. 