Evans gambit vs Kings gambit vs Danish gambit

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DiogenesDue
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Beat him after 2 tries

So, you think you've played 2 full games with adequate analysis running in 15 minutes?

Post the game.

X_PLAYER_J_X

I am happy the OP put all of these line names on a single forum.

Evans gambit vs Kings gambit vs Danish gambit

Very Good Job OP

It is best to keep all of these trash lines on a single forum.

It is very Eco friendly cuts down on hard drive space.

Blackbirdx61

I have a good Friend who consistently beats me with the KGA, I only ever play 1 ... e5 against him because he enjoys the opening, and we have fun.

Sure the Danish is Awful at a Master Level, but if your no where near that yet; why should that worry you. Let your opponent(s) show you they know the refutation, and besides you'll likely get a chance to sharpen your Tactics.

IMHO, Openings appropriate to Club chess are not necessarily Openings you'll see at IM, GM, SGM levels. Like a Morra vs the Sicilian.  Personally I dont think a club player needs a Repertoire that's sound vs Carlson or Kasparov, or someone who would just squash them anyhow.

Personally I think a player is better off studying openings that are more  likely to produce positions your working on, need to work on your tactics, play the KGA, your Endgame, the QGD, your Pawn play, maybe the Benoni. I like the Benoni so... oh well my 2Cents your thoughts BB.

DiogenesDue

The Bird is more viable than the Danish.  You can keep equality with best play via the Bird, but you give up white's quarter pawn almost immediately.  The Danish will never recover, being at least 0.35 centipawns down the entire game with best play.

I do this test eventually with all openings that I really like a lot, once I really want to decide if I should use it indefinitely going forward.

Viable openings will retain a 0.20-0.35 advantage with best play.  You will find that pretty much all of the favorite lines of the super GMs maintain this level, because they do this exact type of analysis.

X_PLAYER_J_X

This is to all name 5 things these 3 lines have in common?

  • Evans gambit

  • Kings gambit

  • Danish gambit

1st place answer = 25 points

2nd place answer = 20 points

3rd place answer = 15 points

4th place answer = 10 points

5th place answer = 5 points

 

You have 2 hours beginning now!

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Congrats Rychessmaster has unlocked number 5 and number 2

 

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Congrats Rychessmaster has unlocked number 4

 

1- ?

2- ?

3- Attacking lines

4- Played with the White pieces

5- Gambits

 

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It has been 2 hours so I am going to show the last one.

2- They all try to give up material.

pfren
Fixing_A_Hole wrote:

When was Evan's supposedly refuted?  It was recently played against Caruana(can't remember who was White), I don't think its refuted...

Caruana won a very good game as Black against Nisipeanu. Three months later, he repeated the same variation against the young chinese player Li Ruifeng, missed a couple of strong moves, and was rather relieved when the youngster repeated moves in an almost winning position...



ipcress12

IMHO, Openings appropriate to Club chess are not necessarily Openings you'll see at IM, GM, SGM levels. Like a Morra vs the Sicilian.  Personally I dont think a club player needs a Repertoire that's sound vs Carlson or Kasparov, or someone who would just squash them anyhow.

Blackbird: Exactly. What GMs and SGMs -- much less computers -- play doesn't have much to do with what works for class players.

It's interesting, of course, to watch the top players' openings and speculate on the ultimate soundness of, say, the Evan's Gambit.

If you have lofty ambitions of reaching IM and above, maybe it's good to point yourself towards a master's opening repertoire early on. But most of us would be doing darn well to reach 2000.

If we lose with the Bird, it's almost certainly because we didn't play well, not because the Bird is a bad opening and our opponent expertly exploited its weakness.

DiogenesDue

I play the Bird all the time...but I would not play it in a game with money riding on it ;).

DiogenesDue

f4

DiogenesDue

Yes, it can.

pfren
rychessmaster1 wrote:

But that is a gambit for black after 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5 Na5 ( 5 Nxd5?? 6 Nxf7!!) 6 Bb5+ c6 and so on

5...Nxd5 is not really bad, just risky- and 6.Nxf7 isn't the best reply.

Daybreak57

I play someone who uses the Danish gambit.  I've come to the conclusion that if you get greedy and try and get two pawns in the opening you will fail due to a strong attack looming towards you.  It usually involves a sac of his light squared bishop unsettling your king later using that dark squared bishop and a developed knight along with the queen to finish the job.  It's not fun to lose that way.  Anyone that says "You just gain two pawns in the opening for nothing" clearly isn't playing someone who is good.  I agree that you can gain 1 pawn and keep it, but not two.

X_PLAYER_J_X

Evans gambit vs Kings gambit vs Danish gambit

Rychessmaster have you played any of those lines? Which one is your favorite of the 3?

Pyrandus
rychessmaster1 ha scritto:

Kings gambit is my favorite

f4

This is the Bird Game.

toiyabe

You'll figure out how to construct an actual sentence soon.  

xman720

Stockfish crushing the lichess.org computer level 8 in Danish Gambit


Here it takes Stockfish 40 moves to win in the Muzio Gambit