Find an opening that suits my playing style well.

I have learnt how to play 1 e4 e5 as black and I did really well with Philidor's defence (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6) but I prefer Balogh's defence (1. e4 d6 2. d4 f5) which I discovered later.

As white, I am trying to find an opening that would help me to do just that: set an example. I have done pretty well so far but I want a new opening that I can make work better.

Your last comment just shows how correct PFren was in post #3. 

What do you mean?

If you really think the Balogh's defense is good for black, you need to go back and study tactics, complete games of grandmasters, and endgames.

You aren't agressive enough to compensate for the loss of a pawn and you love and excel in the yugoslav attack?Dosen't quite fit!Anyways,please dont even consider opening such as Balogh and  stuff,it's just a waste of time.Any decent player will trash you if you play that opening.Instead just try out some sounder openings but don't spend an insane amount of time studying them,just look up some games and theory enough to survive.

If you want to improve, then your "style" right now should be working on developing solid fundamentals.  If you just want to have fun, then sure, learn whatever crazy opening you want.

I'm not trying to talk down to you, I feel like MY "style" still relies on consistently applying fundamentals.  (Don't give up space for no reason, don't give up tempo for no reason, don't accelerate my opponent's play, don't kill my own play, stuff like this).

Only after you can play a reasonable game can you afford to be so picky as to worry about style.

Baloghs defence is not trash and is risky but not unsound. I don't study it, I prefer to use it because so far it has worked for me. If I find something so bad about it that it proves if to be bad I won't play it but it seems fine to me.

I explained the thing with the gambits and Yugoslav badly I know. I don't know why but whenever I play a gambit I have trouble. I play gambits in lightning OTb games but that's it.

If your only help is to tell me not to play an opening that an international master couldn't think of any immediate reason for me to not play it, then I'll just keep searching on my own.

And yes, I'm pretty sure he was an international master. Maybe he didn't have the title, maybe he did, but a few people said he did. Don't ask his name because I can't remember it. I might find out later this year.

Jeez. I thought by now someone would be giving me strong helpful advice on openings but no such luck yet.

Great help guys, great help. Not really. I get better help playing against myself

pellik wrote:

RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

SmyslovFan wrote:

As the captain of your school's chess team, you may want consider that you set an example to the rest of the team. 

In that case, learn to play 1.e4 e5 first and foremost, from both sides of the board.

I have learnt how to play 1 e4 e5 as black and I did really well with Philidor's defence (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6) but I prefer Balogh's defence (1. e4 d6 2. d4 f5) which I discovered later.

As white, I am trying to find an opening that would help me to do just that: set an example. I have done pretty well so far but I want a new opening that I can make work better.

What exactly about Balogh's defense is it that you like? Maybe you can achieve your goals while also playing something sound. 

Black often gets to trade his f pawn for whites e pawn. If white plays 3. exf5 then Bxf5. This can be helpful later if the kingside bishop is fiennchettoed because then the two bishops control two large diagonals. The knights can then manoeuvre around wherever they work best and the queen waits around until she is needed.

It's sound, but I admit it is risky. One mistake can ruin the position entirely but if the opening is played decently black makes it to the midgame nicely

One other thing: endgames are the only thing I really study, so I don't know why you think I study openings. I observe them and see what positions try result in but I don't look at the individual moves a great deal very often. Stop being so arrogant and go away if you don't want to help. Seriously.

Not really,White doesent even have to take the pawn.He can play Nc3 et and just develop while all you've done is open up your kingside and created permanent weaknesses.Certainly not a try to equalise.It is risky and even unsound but if u play it against beginners,they might get intimidated and make decisive mistakes thats true but not an opening to play at tournaments.

my favorite are the d4 openings and the c4 opening. i do enjoy open positions but i prefer to play along open files and try and find good posts for my knights. i have difficulty with bishops but prefer them in the end game over knights.

for you i would suggest ruy lopez or if you really like open positions then gambits might suit your style. try the evans gambit or scotch gambit or the danish gambit. this will help you grow as a player and perhaps one day you will find some good openings which you can play as white.

You will probably insult me for what I will write, but you will thank me in a few years.

If you choose an opening without knowing general opening principles, it's bad.

If you seriously think 1.e4 d6 2.d4 f5 is going along the general principles, you're an idiot or a liar.

If you choose to play it despite knowing it is against all principles, you need to back it with serious reasons (kind of "it happens that in that precise position playing the pieces here and here is better in view of..."). If you haven't those, it's bad.

Not supporting the Balogh or anything(I dont like it at all)I googled it and found out that Nakamura beat Perelshtyen with the Balogh,but then again he is Nakamura and probably had done loads of preparation before the game

Likhit1 wrote:

RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

pellik wrote:

RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

SmyslovFan wrote:

As the captain of your school's chess team, you may want consider that you set an example to the rest of the team. 

In that case, learn to play 1.e4 e5 first and foremost, from both sides of the board.

I have learnt how to play 1 e4 e5 as black and I did really well with Philidor's defence (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6) but I prefer Balogh's defence (1. e4 d6 2. d4 f5) which I discovered later.

As white, I am trying to find an opening that would help me to do just that: set an example. I have done pretty well so far but I want a new opening that I can make work better.

What exactly about Balogh's defense is it that you like? Maybe you can achieve your goals while also playing something sound. 

Black often gets to trade his f pawn for whites e pawn. If white plays 3. exf5 then Bxf5. This can be helpful later if the kingside bishop is fiennchettoed because then the two bishops control two large diagonals. The knights can then manoeuvre around wherever they work best and the queen waits around until she is needed.

It's sound, but I admit it is risky. One mistake can ruin the position entirely but if the opening is played decently black makes it to the midgame nicely

I know he doesn't have to take the pawn I never said he did. For every move by white black has a response. The king does need to castle queenside very early most of the time but I have found the bishops to be good at attacking the opponents queenside so I'll be find if they castle that way. If they castle kingside I have two pawns challenged only by pieces and their kingside pawns and I can put my rooks behind them.

As for the f pawn and e pawn trade, it usually happens at some point even if black has to take whites pawn.

It's not as simple to beat as you think. Once again, your arrogance is shining through. I don't care if you are more experienced than I am, there is no reason to be arrogant. Im asking for help not insults

Not really,White doesent even have to take the pawn.He can play Nc3 et and just develop while all you've done is open up your kingside and created permanent weaknesses.Certainly not a try to equalise.It is risky and even unsound but if u play it against beginners,they might get intimidated and make decisive mistakes thats true but not an opening to play at tournaments.

pdve wrote:

RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

I have been trying for a while to choose an opening for white that fits nicely with my playing style. Until some point last year I played the 'Fried Liver' attack but stopped because I now see Black's advantage in it. The Italian ends up in a lot of symmetrical positions when I don't play the Fried Liver (when I play it) and it just doesn't have the same feel to it.

I tried playing d4 openings but then I realised how much I prefer open positions and that e4 openings are probably a better idea for me.

I prefer bishops over knights and open positions over closed positions. I don't like openings where both sides have pieces in the same places such as the four knights.

I quite enjoy playing against the Sicilian Defence, especially the Dragon because I love playing the Yugoslav attack.

Any help would be appreciated.

my favorite are the d4 openings and the c4 opening. i do enjoy open positions but i prefer to play along open files and try and find good posts for my knights. i have difficulty with bishops but prefer them in the end game over knights.

for you i would suggest ruy lopez or if you really like open positions then gambits might suit your style. try the evans gambit or scotch gambit or the danish gambit. this will help you grow as a player and perhaps one day you will find some good openings which you can play as white.

Finally. Some help. I have tried the Danish and I don't like it as much despite the power of the bishops because I never seem to earn compensation for the two pawns. Maybe it's just me but yeah the Danish I only like to play in short time controls.

I haven't gotten much experience with the Evans or scotch gambit so I might look into them.

Thanks

Why exactly are you respondin like that?If you wanna say something to me,you shouda just replied to my post.not the whole thing.Anyways,I dont understand how you can feel insulted when i never even said anything about you!I was just telling you the flaws of the Balogh.You interpreted it as arrogance,oh well.Anyways,it is up to you to decide whether you wanna continue playing it or not.Im just offering my advise,that's it.

@Irotinger

I'm not the one throwing insults. I know it doesn't develop pieces quickly and can produce problems in defense, meaning it doesn't follow opening principles if you look at it in such black and white terms. I have explained my reasoning already and don't wish to do so again.

It's ironic how you assume I'm going to insult you when you call me an idiot because you haven't read what I have posted.

I'm a teenager, but that doesn't make you any better than me. I show respect to adults, but not when they treat me like a 6 year old kid claiming to be world number 1. As I said, I want help not aggressive criticism. Leave if you can only provide the latter

Likhit1 wrote:

Why exactly are you respondin like that?If you wanna say something to me,you shouda just replied to my post.not the whole thing.Anyways,I dont understand how you can feel insulted when i never even said anything about you!I was just telling you the flaws of the Balogh.You interpreted it as arrogance,oh well.Anyways,it is up to you to decide whether you wanna continue playing it or not.Im just offering my advise,that's it.

It's difficult to figure out how to use the forums on my phone. It's playing up.

I might have gotten you confused with whoever was insulting me and if I have I apologize. I just don't see how people think its justified to call someone an idiot because they are younger and less experienced than them and are asking for help. To me that actually seems pretty smart...

"In a few years" did not refer to your age, but to the fact you will (hopefully) get a better chess player with time, whether you are 16 or 60 now.

The only thing I understood in your reasoning is "I like it because I get good positions" which is not very informative. If you can see a clear interest in playing that opening, you could post it for the others to comment on it. Or an example game. Unless you are asuming we can read your mind ? Or you are afraid pfren will just demolish White's play that led you to emerge ahead ?