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Likhit1
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

As for playing as black against 1. d4, I play the old benoni.

Might i suggest the Benko gambit?U get the initiative and it is fun to play,you just need to know the ideas very well or you will get into trouble.

RSzgvYzxpizmp

I love the idea of the reti (especially the modern reti by delchev) but what if Black plays 1. ... Nf6 or 1. ... Nc6 in response to 1. Nf3 ?

I like the Blackmar-deimer gambit accepted but not many players at my level ever play 1. ... d5 in response to 1. d4. The variations where the gambit is declined don't appeal to me greatly, but I would consider playing it a few times in recreational games to give it a fair chance.

The veresov I don't particularly like, but knowing that such a line has proved to be effective in the past could be useful knowledge.

 

So I doubt I will be playing the reti or the blackmar-deimer anytime soon though I like white's position in each of them.

RSzgvYzxpizmp
Likhit1 wrote:
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

As for playing as black against 1. d4, I play the old benoni.

Might i suggest the Benko gambit?U get the initiative and it is fun to play,you just need to know the ideas very well or you will get into trouble.

It looks interesting. I might play it at school tomorrow to see if I like it. At the moment, I'm still leaning towards the old benoni (it has another name I think but I can't remember such a name) The old benoni is 1. d4 c5 and if whte takes the pawn, black takes back with the bishop or white is caught in a trap. It can be simple or complex, dependiing on which side plays what moves.

Likhit1
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:
Likhit1 wrote:
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

As for playing as black against 1. d4, I play the old benoni.

Might i suggest the Benko gambit?U get the initiative and it is fun to play,you just need to know the ideas very well or you will get into trouble.

It looks interesting. I might play it at school tomorrow to see if I like it. At the moment, I'm still leaning towards the old benoni (it has another name I think but I can't remember such a name) The old benoni is 1. d4 c5 and if whte takes the pawn, black takes back with the bishop or white is caught in a trap. It can be simple or complex, dependiing on which side plays what moves.

Ive played the modern benoni for some time and dont really like it much cuz it is hard to handle,if white gets in a4 ur b5 break is tough and it is very hard to develop the queen's knight and bishop well.

FrogCDE

I strongly recommend Abby Marshall's column at chesscafe.com for interesting opening analysis with an emphasis on attack. There's an archive here. The articles on the Scotch Four Knights and the Glek Four Knights (here rather oddly referred to as the Scotch Four Knights with 4.g3) are relevant to your question. Both are sound, likely to be underrated by opponents and can lead to sharp, but not crazy play.

Fear_ItseIf

I suggest you take up the modern benoni or benko, the 2.d5 lines of the old are plain bad for black

9thEagle
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

I like the Blackmar-deimer gambit accepted but not many players at my level ever play 1. ... d5 in response to 1. d4. The variations where the gambit is declined don't appeal to me greatly, but I would consider playing it a few times in recreational games to give it a fair chance.

The veresov I don't particularly like, but knowing that such a line has proved to be effective in the past could be useful knowledge.

 

So I doubt I will be playing the reti or the blackmar-deimer anytime soon though I like white's position in each of them.

I'm not quite sure why the BDG would appeal to you, but the Veresov doesn't. The Veresov is pretty much a calmer BDG. I usually play the BDG in response to ...d5, and the Veresov in response to ...Nf6. Both can be played by either move order, but there's a nasty transpo line in the BDG (1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3. e4 Nxe4?!), that I really don't like (although most people will play the 3...dxe4, because it is objectively better).

And as far as I know, the only real ways to "decline" the BDG is with the French or the Caro-kann, both of which are unavoidable if you played 1.e4 to begin with. . . .

Fear_ItseIf

i also really like the BDG, though i hate playing the caro and french, so boring!

pfren
FrogCDE wrote:

I strongly recommend Abby Marshall's column at chesscafe.com for interesting opening analysis with an emphasis on attack. There's an archive here. The articles on the Scotch Four Knights and the Glek Four Knights (here rather oddly referred to as the Scotch Four Knights with 4.g3) are relevant to your question. Both are sound, likely to be underrated by opponents and can lead to sharp, but not crazy play.

The article on the Scotch four knights is very bad- full of mistakes and omissions. Actually she confesses just that in the last paragraph:

 

I couldn't dig up much on this variation, so I relied a lot on looking up games.

Likhit1
Fear_ItseIf wrote:

i also really like the BDG, though i hate playing the caro and french, so boring!

French is not boring!Although,I must admit that Im not a big fan of the caro-kan.

Likhit1
Fear_ItseIf wrote:

I suggest you take up the modern benoni or benko, the 2.d5 lines of the old are plain bad for black

I agree but even the MB is too hard to handle and at many times very difficult to find an effective plan for black,So if you like Benoni like positions but are willing to sacrifice a pawn for long term compensation and the initiative Benko is the best choice.

proppolis
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proppolis

Actually, you want a repertoire for White which is composed of openings.

You like open positions , bishops over knights and 1.e4 so let's see my suggestions:

  • scotch game against e5 ( 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4)
  • open sicilian (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3; also in Open Sicilian there are many options so you better buy a book on Open Sicilian)
  • Nc3 or Nd2 against french ( 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 or 3.Nd2; you can choose what you like the most of these two)
  • classical variation or panov-attack against the Caro-Kann (1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 ed4 4.Ne4 or 3.c4)

Also there are other openings like Scandinavian,Alekine,etc. where there are many good options to choose from,so it's you option.

I hope I could helped you.

RSzgvYzxpizmp
Likhit1 wrote:
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:
Likhit1 wrote:
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

As for playing as black against 1. d4, I play the old benoni.

Might i suggest the Benko gambit?U get the initiative and it is fun to play,you just need to know the ideas very well or you will get into trouble.

It looks interesting. I might play it at school tomorrow to see if I like it. At the moment, I'm still leaning towards the old benoni (it has another name I think but I can't remember such a name) The old benoni is 1. d4 c5 and if whte takes the pawn, black takes back with the bishop or white is caught in a trap. It can be simple or complex, dependiing on which side plays what moves.

Ive played the modern benoni for some time and dont really like it much cuz it is hard to handle,if white gets in a4 ur b5 break is tough and it is very hard to develop the queen's knight and bishop well.

Thanks for the advice. I'm glad I'm not the only one that has trouble with playing the modern benoni

RSzgvYzxpizmp
FrogCDE wrote:

I strongly recommend Abby Marshall's column at chesscafe.com for interesting opening analysis with an emphasis on attack. There's an archive here. The articles on the Scotch Four Knights and the Glek Four Knights (here rather oddly referred to as the Scotch Four Knights with 4.g3) are relevant to your question. Both are sound, likely to be underrated by opponents and can lead to sharp, but not crazy play.

I might look at that a bit later. Thanks

RSzgvYzxpizmp
9thEagle wrote:
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:

I like the Blackmar-deimer gambit accepted but not many players at my level ever play 1. ... d5 in response to 1. d4. The variations where the gambit is declined don't appeal to me greatly, but I would consider playing it a few times in recreational games to give it a fair chance.

The veresov I don't particularly like, but knowing that such a line has proved to be effective in the past could be useful knowledge.

 

So I doubt I will be playing the reti or the blackmar-deimer anytime soon though I like white's position in each of them.

I'm not quite sure why the BDG would appeal to you, but the Veresov doesn't. The Veresov is pretty much a calmer BDG. I usually play the BDG in response to ...d5, and the Veresov in response to ...Nf6. Both can be played by either move order, but there's a nasty transpo line in the BDG (1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3. e4 Nxe4?!), that I really don't like (although most people will play the 3...dxe4, because it is objectively better).

And as far as I know, the only real ways to "decline" the BDG is with the French or the Caro-kann, both of which are unavoidable if you played 1.e4 to begin with. . . .

I only like the BDG because of black's lack of a strong and easily defendable center pawn on either d5 or e5. As for not liking the veresov, i can't really explain it.

RSzgvYzxpizmp
proppolis wrote:

Actually, you want a repertoire for White which is composed of openings.

You like open positions , bishops over knights and 1.e4 so let's see my suggestions:

scotch game against e5 ( 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4) open sicilian (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3; also in Open Sicilian there are many options so you better buy a book on Open Sicilian) Nc3 or Nd2 against french ( 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 or 3.Nd2; you can choose what you like the most of these two) classical variation or panov-attack against the Caro-Kann (1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 ed4 4.Ne4 or 3.c4)

Also there are other openings like Scandinavian,Alekine,etc. where there are many good options to choose from,so it's you option.

I hope I could helped you.

Yes you have helped me a fair bit. I already love the open sicilian so your recommendation is a good confirmation that it's a good choice. Scotch game I sort of like but not a great deal. I haven't had to worry about the french or caro-kann before but I will look into that soon. It was my next task after choosing a response to 1. ... e5.

I generally play similar sorts of moves and tactics in  different openings so I normally don't fret over too many openings. ANy idea on whether or not that's good or bad?

proppolis

Nope.

RSzgvYzxpizmp
proppolis wrote:

Nope.

Anyone else know whether or not it's a good idea to play similar tctics in most openings?

waffllemaster
RSzgvYzxpizmp wrote:
proppolis wrote:

Nope.

Anyone else know whether or not it's a good idea to play similar tctics in most openings?

What does this mean?  If you have forks and pins available that win material then of course play that, it doesn't matter the opening.

If you mean strategy like where you attack and how you attack and such then no, it will of course depend on the position.  You can't simply try to do the same thing in any position.