Black is so far behind and created so many weaknesses it doesn't even matter at that point, but I'd go with the fork to win material by force since black won't get any compensation for it.
Fork or check?
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Jan 11, 2014
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Here you can get both bxf7+ ke7 then bd5 hitting the rook in the corner and threatening the same fork
After taking the rook (after he's moved his queen) the bishop check on f7 will still be available to you as f7 remains protected if you feel there is a mate threat from your queen or dark squared bishop to follow or if you just want to completely ruin their king position / development.
In the position you posted white actually hung his knight. Usually the knight move to g5 is preceded by Nf6 blocking the dark squared diagonal to g5 but also blocking check mate threats on black's king after Bf7, so the fork is often better when the standard position arises, simply winning material. Although white is doing great either way.
The position i posted is just one that i set up as an example to give a picture to my question. This isn't from an actual game. I was just wondering if one choice was distinctly better, or if it came down to the opening. Normally this would be a couple moves later, pawn on d3 for bishop to protect the knight, maybe black chose a defence on the opposite side? Assuming there are no better moves, as this wins a pawn as well.
01001011011 wrote:
The position i posted is just one that i set up as an example to give a picture to my question. This isn't from an actual game. I was just wondering if one choice was distinctly better, or if it came down to the opening. Normally this would be a couple moves later, pawn on d3 for bishop to protect the knight, maybe black chose a defence on the opposite side? Assuming there are no better moves, as this wins a pawn as well.
I assumed it was just an example, I was just stating that it depends on the position. More often than not the fork is better at that point in the game against somebody playing somewhat competent moves where an immediate attack might not get very far, but I've missed a mate in one at least two or three times in my life as I gleefully jumped at my chance to win the queen or something:
Obviously it's still winning relatively easily, but, like all things, depends on the position.
In my opinion for post #1; take out the biggest gun. That's the reason why you invested 3 moves in getting your knight down there. take the queen.
the castle?
The queen will always be saved, no player would choose a castle over queen in these cases...if there was no escape for queen, obviously it's better to go for the fork
Jan 12, 2014
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#11
@ 01001011011
On the diagram that you posted, white has made 4 moves and black had only made 3. So it is Black's move.
So it's 4. ... Qxg5.
If you read down you'll notice I explained that it was just to give a picture to my question to make it clear what i was asking, and not a position from an actual game.
CapsLock01 wrote:
How do you know black has made only three moves?
lol true
If early on in the game as white you are given the opportunity to attack square F7 with either a knight on g5 forking the queen and castle, or a bishop from c4, forcing the king to move forward a rank to the centre (bishop can't be taken or blocked) thus ruining his castling ability & putting his king into the open, which choice is better? Considering the knight will probably be able to escape, the castle will be a free piece.