Four Knights Opening

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Position 1-
Engine recommends Bd6 for black here.
I don't understand  because Bc5 looks better for the Bishop to get the diagonal for more scope. B*c6 b*c6 N*e5 is not possible because of Qd4 threatening Q*f2.  
 
Here Black has the two Bishop advantage, Open d file for his Queen and open Diagonals for Bishop. But major disadvantage is B*Nc6 leaves black with isolated double pawn at c file. 
 
 Still I am not sure about Bd6 and advantage in this position for Black. 








Position 2-


In both the positions engines say Black is better. I want to know how and why.
Can someone please explain the position and ideas, traps, weakesses for  both Black and White ? 
stfudonny

In the first line I usually play 7...Ne7.  My opponent shouldn't have the benefit of an engine in a non-correspondence game (and only correspondence on servers other than chess.com, such as ficgs and/or icc), and it sets two traps:
 



pfren

I think 7...Ne7 is more pressing than 7...Bd6 which is less good than people (and some quick deciding silicon creatures)  think after 8.0-0 0-0 7.Re1 Bg4 (7...Re8 is another option, but Black is certainly not better after 8.d3) 8.c3! (not 8.h3? Bh5 followed by ...f5, when an eventual Qb3+ after c3 is strongly answered by ...Bf7). An engine does good only if you know HOW to use it!

Bologan in his recent book suggests as Black's best the interesting move 6.Bd3 Nb4!? but I won't plagiarize his work here...

stfudonny
pfren wrote:

Bologan in his recent book suggests as Black's best the interesting move 6.Bd3 Nb4!? but I won't plagiarize his work here...

I always knew it was a possibility on move 7, so I'll have a look at it on move 6 now.

Robert_New_Alekhine

You are wrong; white can safely take the pawn after Bc5 due to Qe2! at the end of the line.

gnikoor

this is a fun opening for blitz chess.

pfren
stfudonny wrote:

I always knew it was a possibility on move 7, so I'll have a look at it on move 6 now.

Feel free to check it. Actually Bologan credits for the suggested line analyses by Larry Kaufman.

stfudonny
Robert0905 wrote:

You are wrong; white can safely take the pawn after Bc5 due to Qe2! at the end of the line.

Who is wrong?  Which line?

pfren
Robert0905 wrote:

You are wrong; white can safely take the pawn after Bc5 due to Qe2! at the end of the line.

Safety in these lines is quite relative. Black always has interesting compensation.

White will have to return the extra pawn, and keep a not-so important structural edge- but 10...Qd5!? is a good way to play for a win, gambit-style.

If Black does not mind a draw, then his safest line is the little-known 6...dxe4 7.Bxe4 Be6!? which simply aims at killing ASAP that annoying e4 bishop. So far just one correspondence game, and analysis of white's chances of an advantage are quite underwhelming: