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Elite_Spartan

Is the franco benoni playable?

Elite_Spartan
ivandh

This is madness!

Expertise87

It's good for White.

ivandh

Oh, wait, I actually play that opening!

2Kd21-0

The Franco-Benoni is very playable thats what I play against the old Benoni 

FizzyBand

It’s playable but a little  sketchy just like the Modern Benoni 

Mr_Winawer

Why would you want to play the Franco Benoni when you could just play 2.d5 and win with the French. 

But ya, it is playable, and gives black some fighting chances. The problem with it, like the regular benoni, is the dark squared bishop and whites space advantage. 

x-6421237233

Yes, the Franco Benoni is playable. Larsen was one of the top players to use it successfully, and theory didn't change that much since then, partly because it is seldom played. There is a very good book written by GM A. Soltis about this system. Contrary to the Modern Benoni where Black Fianchettos his dark squared Bishop, in the Franco the Bishop goes to e7, keeping control of the d6 pawn which is always a weakness in the Modern Benoni. Sometimes later the e7 Bishop can move to f6 if this is possible. I would say it's slightly passive, but solid, with clear plans for Black : to push b5, by playing Na6 , Nc6 , a6, Rb8 etc. The Bishop c8 often goes to B7 after b6 or b5. It also has the advantage of surprise value, plus the fact that white ends up in a d4 closed type of position, which he usually doesn't want when playing 1.e4 It's solid and easy to play, slightly passive, but nothing is perfect against 1.e4 ! 😎

x-6421237233

Sorry not Nc6, I meant Na6 and then Nc7 of course...

ThrillerFan

Franco-Benoni is garbage.  White, simply put, should play Nc3 WITHOUT c4 and he has a clear advantage.

darkunorthodox88
ThrillerFan wrote:

Franco-Benoni is garbage.  White, simply put, should play Nc3 WITHOUT c4 and he has a clear advantage.

they are asking whether its playable , not whether it can feed rats.

ThrillerFan
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

Franco-Benoni is garbage.  White, simply put, should play Nc3 WITHOUT c4 and he has a clear advantage.

they are asking whether its playable , not whether it can feed rats.

 

And the answer is no!  It has about the same level of soundness as the Latvian Gambit!

 

Sure it can be played "legally", but if you want to get better at chess, play something that is more sound!  If you respond to 1.d4 with 1...e6, you are basically saying you are ok with the French Defense if White plays 2.e4.  2...c5?! And 2...b6?! Both give White a clear advantage!

 

For example, a QGD or Nimzo player that also happens to play the French might answer 1.d4 with 1...e6 to avoid the Tromp, but then 2.e4 should be answered with 2...d5, not 2...c5?!.

 

If you are unwilling to play the French, you should avoid 1...e6, and instead play something sound, like the QGD, QGA, Slav, Nimzo/Bogo/Queen's Indian, Grunfeld, or King's Indian.  The Franco-Benoni is junk, even worse than the Modern Benoni!

RoseyDolls
i only play this for blitz. and blitz only. but its a fun variation to play. it has its perks against unknowing opponents
adityasaxena4

It used to be my favorite but with d6 and e5, not exd5 exd5 d6 like in the diagram until I realized that 1.e4 e6 2.d4 c5 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nbd2 is the open Tarrasch French Euwe-Keres Line as for the Be7 idea that can also be found in the Caro-Kann Defence: Masi Variation with 1.e4 c6 2.d4 Nf6 I have a forum about it called "Is the Caro-Kann Defence: Masi Variation, not a better Kings-Indian ?" or something of that sort 

B1ZMARK

It is playable, probably not much more.