French Vs Sicilian

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Talk to @ThrillerFan.  I'd barely pass for Davout.

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Looking at the Board 3 Sicilian game:

- 7. f3 looks slow, the immediate Qd2 would be better, since black has committed to castling short (though castling long in reply was correct)

- You flat missed 10. Nxc6! which pins the d-pawn and wins the battle for the center after 11. e5.  I know 10. exd5 is a book move, but it's clearly inferior.

- Instead of taking the pawn, which surrenders the initiative, 13. Bd4! maintains a healthy advantage by blockading the d-pawn and challenging the g7 bishop on the long diagonal.  If black kicks the bishop, i.e. 13. Bd4 e5, then 14. Bc5! gains tempo on the f1 rook and allows the queen to capture d5 with better piece activity for both attack and defense.

- 35. h5?! was no good, you're losing a pawn anyways, don't let him create a passed pawn so easily.  Leave the pawn there, capturing it will deactivate his queen for a turn.

Alright, looks like the rest of Team French is going to have to kick in, now that we're down a point.  Uncharted territory for us, we led the last challenge from wire-to-wire.

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Qd2 then Ng5

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A more positional line seriously???

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15. Bd4 seems like an obvious improvement over the game line, as well.

Also the main board is updated now that the Board 3 match is over.

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@chamo2074 - Sometimes blockading the pawn is better than taking it, and this is one of those instances.  Piece activity is easily worth a whole pawn, and your opponent had more than enough space to avoid forced simplifications which might have made the pawn deficit more consequential.

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That's the issue with the Sicilian, and the Dragon especially - there is simply so much theory, and much of it gets very exotic.

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chamo2074 wrote:
ChesswithNickolay a écrit :
little_guinea_pig wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Can I go on team Siclian?

Sorry, games are already in progress. You'll just have to wait for the e5 match

So, e5 vs the Sicilian?

Oh I was thinking e5 vs French. There was already Caro vs French, which I missed, so I joined the French vs Sicilian even though I don't play the Sicilian xD

But e5 and c5 are the top 2 ways to respond to e4. Wouldn't that work better?

It would... don't ask me, ask Team French lol

Idk but you guys seem to be ignoring the fact that team french crushed team caro-kann... and that we are winning in this as board 1 games were 2-1 for us and mr winawer won too I think

I haven't finished my games yet

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The Dragon is more fun anyway.

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Idk about the sicilian or the french, when I play the dragon sicilian  they always go for the yugoslav attack and their pawns reach me before mine. People say that the dragon sicilian is aggresive but I don't see how it is.  And then my position falls apart. I know that the najdorf stops the pieces from going to b6 but they rarely do when you don't play the najdorf. Idk, I'm running out of ideas on which opening to play.

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If someone shows me how  the light squared bishop can get into the game I'll be convinced that the french is better. Or if someone shows me how to deal with the yugoslav attack. Then I'll go with sicilian.

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@little_guinea_pig - I don't think I was being harsh.  @chamo2074 is a fine player, I was at his level not long ago.  The thing is, I was at that level for a very long time, and I could have used a little help finding these small improvements back then.

Once you get to the mid-amateur level, further improvement requires a better understanding of positional subtleties, and a better sense of the balance between material and activity.  I had to get out of my comfort zone in order to acquire these skills.

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@freerobuxman - Nimzowitsch, in his book My System, Chapter 9 (Pawn Chains) illustrates how to liberate the queenside pieces in the French Advanced Variation.  It does take a while to accomplish, but it does happen by force.

If white doesn't play the Advanced Variation (3. e5), you can just play the Rubinstein (3. ..dxe4) and the light square bishop never becomes an issue in the first place.

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ChesswithNickolay wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:

If someone shows me how  the light squared bishop can get into the game I'll be convinced that the french is better. Or if someone shows me how to deal with the yugoslav attack. Then I'll go with sicilian.

Drop the dragon, play the Najdorf.

I don't find the pawn push very useful, unless you can convince me 

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@ChesswithNickolay - I don't have anything against the Najdorf, it's a fine option.  It's just that the Dragon is sharper, and sharp games are better for improving tactical skills, and generally more fun for tactical players to use.  Most Sicilian players like tactical games.  That's why I said the Dragon is "more fun" and not "better".

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ChesswithNickolay wrote:
Dsmith42 wrote:

The Dragon is more fun anyway.

Yes, but Najdorf has a higher win rate., 

higher win rate for grandmasters, how about 1200s

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But we do play for fun.

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little_guinea_pig a écrit :
chamo2074 wrote:

A more positional line seriously???

The line you went into was more of a sharp one. Generally, 9.0-0-0 is more positional than 9.Bc4, which is one of the most aggressive tactical lines in all of chess.

But it's opposite side castling

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little_guinea_pig a écrit :

I think chamo was going mostly off the opening explorer at the start - remember that sometimes the most played lines aren't the best ones

I used explorer when you played d5 otherwise I knew all of this

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Hmm