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blueemu
jmpchess12 wrote:

I'd throw in the Morra as an actual gambit that is pretty good.

The Drunken Knight Gambit!

blueemu
llama_l wrote:

I've been trying some Reti gambit lines. They're fun.

Chessflyfisher

We have a new policy to root out unsound gambits. When a new player wants to join our club, they must sign a a 5 page questionaire concerning what openings/defenses they will play. I have a committee that evaluates the answers and, if approved, that player goes onto the next step in being permitted to play at our club. Many have cursed at me and leveled obscenities in their disgust at the way we do things but gambits will not "poison our blood"!

sndeww
Chessflyfisher wrote:

We have a new policy to root out unsound gambits. When a new player wants to join our club, they must sign a a 5 page questionaire concerning what openings/defenses they will play. I have a committee that evaluates the answers and, if approved, that player goes onto the next step in being permitted to play at our club. Many have cursed at me and leveled obscenities in their disgust at the way we do things but gambits will not "poison our blood"!

whoever downvoted this gem deserves to get their forum privileges revoked

Cyprus76
I think Vienna gambit is pretty good
KarpoVegeta

Englund is a bad Gambit. A bad trick that is very easy to counter. Serious time gambits like Budapest or Morra are very interesting.

Sussyguy4890
Have you seen the drunken bishops gambit were you give up 10 points of material
MaetsNori
Chessflyfisher wrote:

We have a new policy to root out unsound gambits. When a new player wants to join our club, they must sign a a 5 page questionaire concerning what openings/defenses they will play. I have a committee that evaluates the answers and, if approved, that player goes onto the next step in being permitted to play at our club. Many have cursed at me and leveled obscenities in their disgust at the way we do things but gambits will not "poison our blood"!

Assuming this isn't a joke (it must be a joke, right?) - it'd be a bad practice for one main reason: you'd be denying your club members the opportunities to learn how to face unsound gambits.

Even unsound/unorthodox openings can turn out to be lethal, if a player doesn't have experience dealing with them.

sndeww
Caballo_ansioso wrote:

Englund is a bad Gambit. A bad trick that is very easy to counter. Serious time gambits like Budapest or Morra are very interesting.

as someone with 150 budapest games, it's not a serious gambit

KarpoVegeta
B1ZMARK escribió:
Caballo_ansioso wrote:

Englund is a bad Gambit. A bad trick that is very easy to counter. Serious time gambits like Budapest or Morra are very interesting.

as someone with 150 budapest games, it's not a serious gambit

You're right. I should have specified that (as the courses that I have seen do) that I am referring to sub 2000 FIDE players (I am a humble 1600 FIDE). For that range of play, the Budapest Gambit It is very dynamic and recommended if you have an aggressive playing style. But later it is no longer so recommended.

Would it be possible to ask you to elaborate a little (if you'd like) on what fails at high levels?

nah

gambts are dumb cus what if they dont accept it then ur screwed

KieferSmith

Every gambit has a backup plan in case they don't take.

KarpoVegeta
llama_l escribió:
KieferSmith wrote:

Every gambit has a backup plan in case they don't take.

No!

If they don't accept just keep sacrificing more and more until all you have left is a king.

That's how you establish dominance.

There is no fortress that you cannot enter by sacrificing three or four horses.

sndeww
Caballo_ansioso wrote:
B1ZMARK escribió:
Caballo_ansioso wrote:

Englund is a bad Gambit. A bad trick that is very easy to counter. Serious time gambits like Budapest or Morra are very interesting.

as someone with 150 budapest games, it's not a serious gambit

You're right. I should have specified that (as the courses that I have seen do) that I am referring to sub 2000 FIDE players (I am a humble 1600 FIDE). For that range of play, the Budapest Gambit It is very dynamic and recommended if you have an aggressive playing style. But later it is no longer so recommended.

Would it be possible to ask you to elaborate a little (if you'd like) on what fails at high levels?

Im a bit light headed right now and on my phone so I won’t post any lines (I can later if you’d like me to) but basically, people start playing the challenging lines, alekhine attack is difficult, etc. The Budapest is strongest when the opponent doesn’t know what to do, and people will know what to do as you improve. I also have a book on the whole opening, too, and I score very well from whites perspective.

sndeww

Also the faj gambit is hot garbage

sndeww

Do you think garbage is a good or bad thing

sndeww

Well it’s bad

KarpoVegeta

@B1zmark If one day you want to write it, I will be happy to read it and learn.

sndeww
sndeww

I wouldn't be surprised if some of my analysis isn't fully correct since it's been over a year and a half since I last touched the gambit, and I'm writing it from memory, so if anything seems wrong let me know