Help with the Dutch defense vs London system (for black)

i agree london is one of the testing ways to play against the dutch

Which Engine?  Stockfish 14?

If you are using the crap engine here at chess.com, your argument is invalid.

I play REAL correspondence chess (ICCF) and have noticed that the engines here are CONSISTENTLY wrong!

Case in point!  Look at post 9 of the following thread!

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/i-really-am-not-that-good-but-a-2100-bot-now

Do not trust chess.com engines.  They are trash!

Depends on which line of the Dutch you play.

The Leningrad is weak against the London.

The Stonewall is no better because of the g4 ideas after ...Ne4.

However, the Classical (...e6, ...d6, ...Be7, etc) and the Modern (...e6, ...b6, ...Bb7) are both fine against it.

In Win With the Stonewall Dutch, he specifically avoids the Stonewall against the London System, and for good reason (mentioned above).

Spicy is good with me!

I play a classical setup

I follow the general principle of fianchettoing the light-squared bishop in the Dutch when White hasn't fianchettoed on the kingside. This gives you a very solid grip on the light squares. Often you can put your knight on e4, and the other one can come round via d7 to support it. The d-pawn should be on d6 in this variation, and you are looking for breaks with e5 or c5. I'm always happy to see the London set-up against my Dutch.

That’s how I normally play it, but against the London setups it’s a little bit annoying from experience

You weren’t lying when you said it was spicy haha

Gotta go Bd6 instead of Be7, you get an aggressive clamp on the center