Hobbs gambit (e.g. 1.f4 g5!?):an easy anti-Bird line
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Interesting gambit. I have been looking for something to play against the Bird. This may be something that I can use...
Why not return the pawn with 4. g6 and leave you with a ruined kingside?
Tricklev wrote:
Why not return the pawn with 4. g6 and leave you with a ruined kingside?
Because after 4. g6 fxg6 5. Nf3 Nf6 and now
6. g3 Bg7 7. Bg2 O-O =/+ is slightly better for Black.
6. e3 Nc6 7. Be2 Bf5 8. Nh4 e6 9. O-O Be7 =/+ once again slightly better for Black.
6. Nh4 ? g5 7. Ng6 Rg8 8. Nxf8 Rxf8 -/+ clearly better for Black.
Estragon wrote:
Any gambit is good if the opponent plays weakly. 3 d3? is passive and weak. 3 d4 is much better, where White is simply a pawn ahead - 3 ...h6 4 Nc3 or 4 Nf3 are quite good, better than White is going to get out of the regular Bird lines.
RE: 3 d4 is much better, where White is simply a pawn ahead...
After 3.d4 h6 4.Nc3 (or 4.Nf3) 4...Nc6 etc. Black plays the line 1.d4 f5 2.g4!? fxg4 3. h3 Nc6 4. Nc3 etc. with a tempo down. However here, similar to the Benko gambit (e.g. 1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5!? etc.) and other "positional" gambits , the obtained positions are not time critical (as opposite to the Danish gambit for example), so the line 1.f4 g5!? 2.fxg5 d5! etc. should be playable at least up to the master level. Everything depends of how open is your chess mind...
Further, it's well known that at amateur (and even at master level!) level there are not too many players with an open-minded approach to the chess game :))). And, as a result, I almost always outplay effortless my opponents within just 15-20 moves even with such a "slow" (and dubious according to many amateurs and masters) defence like the Hippo. And this is just because these amateurs and masters simply don't understand the chess game as a whole.
GM Miladinovich (a 2600 Grandmaster) for example plays 1.d4 f5 2.g4!? and as far as I now 1.d4 f5 2.h3!? was the GM Korchnoi suggestion ....
better the FROM gambit against the bird
Estragon wrote:
hippochess wrote:Everything depends of how open is your chess mind...
I can find only one game by Miladinovic with 2 h3 d6 3 g4 (versus Corvi - 2302 - at Rome 2005) and none with 2 g4.
It's not a good gambit for White - I used to play it - and cannot be good with Black a tempo down.
There is a fine line between having an open mind and just a hole in the head.
The fact that you couldn't get something out of this gambit doesn't prove anything.
But surely the chess game is a bit more complex and interesting mater than trying to follow the openings of the 2700+ Grandmasters.
By the way the line of the Spanish game 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5!? was considered dubious at GM level until ….GM Radjabov (a ~2750 player ) starts to play it vs …2700+ opponents.
So, don’t take so easy general conclusions about the openings. Instead, its always useful to try to play a bit more interesting and original chess (I hope you are not a super GM :))) ) But even at super GM level there are open-minded chess players like GM Nakamura, GM Shirov, GM Morozevich (to name a few) which play interesting and original chess :)))
darkschyte wrote:
better the FROM gambit against the bird
And after 1.f4 e5!? 2.e4! you may well be tricked into the King’s gambit. Oh, I forgot that the King’s gambit is a bad opening J)))))
Good game hippochess, you sure owned him! LOL
Conzipe, I know very well that “according to the theory” after 1.d4 f5 2.g4!? hxg4 3. h3!? d5! 4.Nc3 Nf6 Black equalized (or maybe Black is already better? :))) . But I wonder what (according to that “theory”) should play Black after White’s 5.Bf4 or 5.Bg2!? Just draw me a few lines with your sources/games cited.