How do I start learning the Sicilian?

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Here is a game where my dragon were good for me.

http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=87290270

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Here's an old game in the Sicilian Najdorf that I played with the Black pieces in an OTB tournament back in 1975.



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Nice, blueemu, you have beeen  a good player  a long time :)

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apostolis1 wrote:

The kan is a nice solution and its advantage is that you can easily switch to any e6 variation, as the taimanov or the paulsen

I already said the Kan was the answer. 

What exactly is the difference between the Kan and the Paulsen?

#multipleredundancies

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@OP : assuming your rating and games on chess.com are more or less reflecting your level, I would advise against taking the dive into theory for now. Just play along the principles, and learn a few ideas but not the lines.

Now to be honest, I have always been lazy when it comes to memorizing opening lines, so my opinion might be a bit biaised.

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I also won a game in Canada with the Sicialian, although far less interesting. 



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I thought the Scheviningen was supposed to be a good start since you just get the basic pawn structure and it doesn't change every five seconds. Still the Sicilian always seemed to me to be the opening that rarely anyone would let you play.

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ghostofmaroczy wrote:
apostolis1 wrote:

The kan is a nice solution and its advantage is that you can easily switch to any e6 variation, as the taimanov or the paulsen

I already said the Kan was the answer. 

What exactly is the difference between the Kan and the Paulsen?

#multipleredundancies

Only the move order and some traps (against the knight on c3 and the pawn on e4)

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start by playing it against computers.

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NathanielGraham, I did like that game, and it is very, very different from my Dragongames.

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Sicilian is an interesting opening after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 there are many interesting variations to choose.For.ex Dragon,Scheveningen,Najdorf,Sveshnikov.,etc are good ones.

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apostolis1 wrote:
ghostofmaroczy wrote:

What exactly is the difference between the Kan and the Paulsen?

Only the move order and some traps (against the knight on c3 and the pawn on e4)

apostolis, Please give the two distinct move orders of the Kan and Paulsen.

#theyareidentical

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This was a fun Sicilian I played a few minutes ago where my opponent accused me of cheating (gotta love that, right?)



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Isn't 2...a6 the only case where 3.d4 ends up in positional disaster for some reason ? I thought to remember something like this.

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Irontiger wrote:

Isn't 2...a6 the only case where 3.d4 ends up in positional disaster for some reason ? I thought to remember something like this.

Yes...sort of. Not a disaster, but easy play for Black.

And the reason is not the line posted in #62, which is more or less a regular Can, but rather 4...e5, or 4...Nf6 5.Nc3 e5, when Black is already fine, since the attacked white knight cannot jump to b5.

2...a6 is "punished" by either 3.c3 or 3.c4 (and delaying d2-d4 for a while in the second case), but IMO Black has reasonable play in both cases. The O'Kelly is not bad at all- it's just unfashionable right now.

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NathanielGraham wrote:

Checkmate with advantage

pmsl

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Why Black should play like that?

3.c3 e6(!) 4.d4 d5 and now 5.ed5 cd5 is a fairly normal French Tarrasch, where the "odd" ...a6 is actually the most fashionable approach currently, while 5.e5 is a French advance, where Black should try to make ...a6 useful- normally via an eventual ...Bd7 and ...Bb5. The second makes more sense, but IMO Black's game is very playable.

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How do you start learning the Sicilian?

Same way you learn to swim: cannonball right off the deep end!

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I really like ...a6 as an early prep move just because of all it does for you:

*prophylactically takes away white's possible light square bishop check (even though it's mostly harmless, it's still annoying)

*takes away the square for white's knight

*opens the line for your own light square bishop at Bb7 if you want to fianchetto

*prepares b5 to give you more space on the queen side 

and that's pretty much all one can ask for from a pawn at this stage of the game, isn't it?

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learningthemoves wrote:
*prepares b5 to give you more space on the queen side 

Not just more space... the b5 move threatens b4, unhinging the guard of e4. It also covers the c4 square, which makes an excellent Knight outpost on the open c-file.