How should black play for a win against 1. d4?

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Glaucon333

Thank you for your excellent feedback.

bergjes007

Maybe the Dutch Leningrader is something interesting if you want to have a double-edged position with a kingside attack from black. 

Laskersnephew

Great players win all the time from the black side of all these "drawish" openings. How do they do it? They make a lot of good moves! Do that and you can play any opening for a win. Make poor moves and you can play any opening for a loss

billy223
Optimissed wrote:

It is definitely a way to go if Black is fine with defending an isolated Queen pawn.>>>

If you don't want to play with an isolated pawn structure then you shouldn't think you can play for a win with black.

I agree. I like the ideas behind having a pawn that tends to tie up minor piece like a Knight to stop it. There are some Tarrasch lines where Black plays an eventual d4 that are interesting but all in all, I like some of the positional aspects that come from d4 d5 openings. Now playing as White however, is a different story.

Tja_05

Openings that include a Fianchetto (either side) are very good if you want imbalanced positions with chances for either side. The Queen's Indian Defence is the most solid and sound of the openings, and is good if you want a nice imbalanced position without taking many risks. The King's Indian Defense is a good attacking line, and handy against lower rated opponents

Tja_05

The Benkö Gambit is good line, but if white wants, he can steer the game into more quiet waters

Laskersnephew

Queens Gambit Accepted, Queens Gambit Declined, Slav, Semi-Slav, Nimzo-Indian, Queens Indian, Kings Indian, Grunfeld, Benoni, Dutch, these are some of the many openings you can confidently play fro a win as black

Trexler3241

Every time my opponent plays 1.d4 I play 1...c5 mostly, but sometimes 1...e5

bergjes007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL3Rs_qqJso 

bergjes007
RooksAreCannons wrote:

Everyone not considering the austrian attack and it's great

I'm very sure that you're in the wrong topic.

Drunken_Shrimp

play Nf6

my137thaccount
RooksAreCannons wrote:

Everyone not considering the austrian attack and it's great

I think I'm going crazy but why is it that all the users from Spain are recommending the Austrian Attack? It's such a niche opening, and if it was just popular on chess.com then at least people would know that it's actually called the Austrian Defense not the Austrian Attack (I presume you mean 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c5). Do you just have multiple accounts? I'm not meaning this as an attack or insult in any way and I'm quite happy to admit I myself have had more than 1 account on this site. Just curious as every couple of months another user pops up recommending this.

my137thaccount

(Also please don't take the above as racist in any way - I have nothing against you or other Spanish users and if people object I'm happy to delete my comments)

kindaspongey

https://www.chess.com/blog/pfren/playing-1-d5-d5-a-classical-repertoire

https://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/Playing1d4d5-excerpt.pdf

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7743.pdf

darkunorthodox88

1.d4 nc6

if 2.d4, play 2.d5 or 2.e5 

if 2.c4 play 2.e5 or 2.d5 (2.nf6 is playable too, but 2.e5 is the superior order)

if 2.nf3 , then play 2.d6 aiming for a pirc/kid structure or 2.d5 chigorin style.

if 2.d5, learn to play the Mikenas with ne5, or just play nb8 and pirc it.

 

you will never be bored as black again.

kindaspongey

Is this discussion about 1 d4 Nc6 2 d5 Nb8 ?

RussBell

Attack With Black by Valery Aveskulov...

Aggressive repertoire for Black based around the Benko, Vaganian and Blumenfeld Gambits...

https://www.amazon.com/Attack-Black-Valery-Aveskulov/dp/1906454396/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CD32ZA38BG3H&keywords=attack+with+black&qid=1553664448&s=books&sprefix=attack+with+black%2Cstripbooks%2C204&sr=1-1

Alterman Gambit Guide - Black Gambits 1 by Boris Alterman......coverage of the same gambits (and more) as in Aveskulov....

https://www.amazon.com/Alterman-Gambit-Guide-Black-Gambits/dp/1906552541/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_3?keywords=alterman+gambit+guide&qid=1553664622&s=books&sr=1-3-fkmrnull

For online learning, a complete repertoire (one which you can play for a win) against 1.d4 - built around the Benko Gambit - is available on Chessable....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr5HGef-2jg

https://www.chessable.com/chessexplaineds-benko-repertoire-a-complete-answer-to-1d4/course/3258/

BL4D3RUNN3R

Fianchettoed bishops provide (latent) dynamism.

So I play both b6 and g6 systems. 

 

KID is the mother of all d4 bashers. It cannot be tamed, even the engines are respecting it nowadays.

kindaspongey
RussBell wrote:

Attack With Black by Valery Aveskulov ...

Alterman Gambit Guide - Black Gambits 1 by Boris Alterman ...

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627001415/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen164.pdf

http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Attack_with_Black.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627113531/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen156.pdf

https://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/Black-Gambits-1-exceprt.pdf

bergjes007
RooksAreCannons wrote:
bergjes007 escribió:
RooksAreCannons wrote:

Everyone not considering the austrian attack and it's great

I'm very sure that you're in the wrong topic.

Mmm no.

 

Austrian Attack is a line in the Pirc where white does f4 quickly.