How to counter black’s early e5 on the Stonewall?

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Avatar of DrunkenSailorFrog
So I’ve been quite enjoying playing the Stonewall with white. But I am having trouble how to continue after black’s e5, in a game of - d4 d5, e3 e5. Should i simply take and abandon a Stonewall setup, do still gain an advantage in such case? Or is there some other sequence of moves that allows me to continue in the Stonewall?
Avatar of swarminglocusts

Why not play f4 instead of e3? then play e3 later?

Avatar of DrunkenSailorFrog
swarminglocusts escreveu:

Why not play f4 instead of e3? then play e3 later?

In order to free the white bishop, as to place him on d3 and not allow black's white bishop to control the diagonal

Avatar of blank0923

No reason to play f4 to prevent e5; e5 simply loses a pawn and you should be happy to be up material 3 moves into the game. Just keep developing pieces normally afterwards

Avatar of Stonewall_Defence

You could ignore the pawn with 3. Nf3 and turn it into a reversed French Defence, up one tempo which seems interesting (and kind of confusing). Capturing the pawn is best as mentioned by @blank0923.

Avatar of Ilampozhil25

imo if your opponent hangs a pawn for no reason in the opening you should take it

but if i am wrong, @exceptionalfork can correct me

Avatar of AstroBoy61

What if 1.d4 d5 2.e3 Nc6 3. Bd3 e5, in other words, Black played Nc6 followed by e5. If white takes dxe5, back takes with Nxe5, threatening to take the Bishop on d3, which I believe is important in controlling the diagonal. What can white do to prevent black's e5 as the Stonewall structure is now gone, and what should white do from here?

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AstroBoy61 έγραψε:

What if 1.d4 d5 2.e3 Nc6 3. Bd3 e5, in other words, Black played Nc6 followed by e5. If white takes dxe5, back takes with Nxe5, threatening to take the Bishop on d3, which I believe is important in controlling the diagonal. What can white do to prevent black's e5 as the Stonewall structure is now gone, and what should white do from here?

3.Bd3 isn't something that White could consider, unless he is happy with 3.Bd3 e5 4.Bb5!? which is a reversed French Winawer (no tempo gained for White, as the bishop went at b5 in two moves).

But anyway, 3.c4, 3.Nf3 and 3.Bb5 make more sense- the first two will transpose to a not-so-critical line of the Chigorin Defense of the QGD.