At your level. Openings are not deciding your games.
How to defend against the notorious Blackmar-Diemer Gambit?
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Jun 24, 2020
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My advice, at your level, obliging your opponents attacks is not what I would call a good idea.
I would go either 2...c6 or 2...e6 and take it from there. I prefer the Caro over the French because development for Black is not as complicated and torturous.
Of course you can try the Nimzowitch with 2....Nc6 but I no experience with that.
Declining the BDG does not mean you have to put up with passive positions.
Like this if you accepted, -1.2 for Black.
Best course of action is to avoid it entirely, though. Like this, -0.95 for Black.
KetoOn1963 wrote:
At your level. Openings are not deciding your games.
The hypocrisy. On one side you are supposedly a changed man who doesn't act this way anymore, on the other side nothing has changed. Make up your mind.
Also, you play on the same level, you should encourage him rather than talk down on him.
Hadron wrote:
My advice, at your level, obliging your opponents attacks is not what I would call a good idea.
I would go either 2...c6 or 2...e6 and take it from there. I prefer the Caro over the French because development for Black is not as complicated and torturous.
Of course you can try the Nimzowitch with 2....Nc6 but I no experience with that.
Declining the BDG does not mean you have to put up with passive positions.
I would prefer Nimzowitsch. I like semi-open games.
Colby-Covington wrote:
Like this if you accepted, -1.2 for Black.
Best course of action is to avoid it entirely, though. Like this, -0.95 for Black.
Okay. But sometimes I surprise my opponent by playing the Englund Gambit. hahahahaha
I am black in the above position. This is one of the lines we played.
Well, you asked for ways to counter the BDG because you kept losing to a friend. Those are the best ways to do that.
pfren wrote:
None of them is the current Blackmar gambit, though.
The first (3.f3?) is the way Bl;acvkmar himself introduced the gambit, but today everyone is playing 3.Nc3 first.
The second one, is called Hubsch Gambit, and is much orse than the Blackmar.
To the O.P.: There's no reason learning lines in which you try to keep the pawn. A simple and mighty good line is (1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3) e5, which gives Black easy equality, active play, and probably a wee bit more than that.
The first line I showed is called the Gedult Gambit and Black gains the advantage after the Counter Gambit. This is actually partially considered a refutation. The Hubsch Gambit also gives Black a slight advantage, you might want to run both. All textbook BDG, so please, don't always dismiss established lines so easily, without doing the proper research first.
Secondly, 3.Nc3 or 3.f3! are perfectly interchangeable. The move order is irrelevant at this stage, because either move would immediately follow on move 4.
You can play 3.Nc3 immediately, but playing 3.f3! first is the more aggressive option. Emil Diemer wrote 2 chapters on this and it's very well known among BDG players.
The modern line is handled the same exact way. Elbert-Counter Gambit, there are a bunch of different variations but most of them are quite favorable for Black, as well.
OP, most of the time it's better to play older variations that deviate from the main lines, because it's more likely that people won't know the proper ways to defend. You should always choose the unorthodox alternative over the mainstream stuff, especially with highly aggressive gambits like this one.
My classmate sometimes plays the infamous BDG (1. d4 d5 2.e4?!, also can arise from Scandinavian 1. e4 d5 2. d4?!) and it is very annoying. I end up losing 3 games in a row by taking the BDG, although declining it makes my pieces passive. Can someone tell me how to counter the BDG properly?
Thanks!