-QGD isn't drawish in some lines
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"I wonder what's more drawish - QGD or Semi-Slav."
++ Slav is more drawish, but QGD is good too.
"I think I'd go with the most drawish opening I'm familiar with - The main-line Philidor."
++ Main line Philidor is not drawish, it is solid but passive, but hard to defend correctly
"Is Petrov / Russian Defense better (that is to say, more drawish) than the Philidor?"
++ Yes, it was also the choice of Caruana and of Nepo in their world championship matches.
"There's also an opening made by the GingerGM - "The Black Lion", which can be reached by either Philidor - Hanham Variation, or by the Pirc Defense."
++ It is more of a surprise, objectively not that solid.
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I'd think the best way to play for a draw would to be to play aggresive chess. Might sound silly, but I've had several games where after a long attack I've managed to get either a perpetual check or a position that's an equal endgame.
I think choosing openings that are drawish won't work simply because the better player will still figure out how to imbalance the position and make winning chances.
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#7
Sekada wrote:
I'd think the best way to play for a draw would to be to play aggresive chess. Might sound silly, but I've had several games where after a long attack I've managed to get either a perpetual check or a position that's an equal endgame.
I think choosing openings that are drawish won't work simply because the better player will still figure out how to imbalance the position and make winning chances.
I agree, and also disagree. you see this game:
That's what I strive for. - tricking him into a draw. But, I'm not an openings master like Hanging Pawns..
Jan 5, 2022
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ninjaswat wrote:
-QGD isn't drawish in some lines
In the mainline black basically goes “Ooga booga let me trade all pieces such fun haha” so…
Jan 5, 2022
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#10
Pretty much any opening that usually gives rise to symmetrical pawn structures can be played for a draw. Slav for example against d4, e5 against e4, Philidor and petrov are good ways.
But the best way to draw is to play your best.
Jan 5, 2022
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#11
Don't let an opponent's high rating intimidate you into playing for a draw. If you aren't trying to win, then you're giving away points.
When the game starts, forget about ratings. Just play your best chess.
If you want to get a draw from the get go, go for a closed position
Jan 5, 2022
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#13
Trying to play it safe to keep the draw in hand may be ok if you are in the last round of a big-money tournament and only want to preserve your $$, but it's not a good idea otherwise. Play your normal game. You'll learn a lot by seeing how a considerably-stronger player beats you. And you might be surprised by getting a good result. When a B-class (USCF) player I got a draw vs 2350+ opponent (in his defense, he did simplify to a K+P ending with a two-pawn advantage that turned out to be one of the rare cases where such an ending is drawn). When an A player I went to a nice restaurant between rounds, had a couple of glasses of wine, came back filled with foolish bravado so I launched a speculative attack vs a Master and rolled him up handily.
Jan 5, 2022
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#14
B1ZMARK wrote:
Pretty much any opening that usually gives rise to symmetrical pawn structures can be played for a draw. Slav for example against d4, e5 against e4, Philidor and petrov are good ways.
But the best way to draw is to play your best.
tygxc has also mentioned Slav, so Slav it is. Slav and Petroff.
Спасибо.
Jan 5, 2022
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#15
Nennerb wrote:
If you want to get a draw from the get go, go for a closed position
No offense, but that's terrible advice. Open positions would be better since it's easier to trade off pieces, and gives the lower rated player a chance to show his calculation. Because it's easier to slip up in tactics than it is to slip up positionally/strategically - and chances are, you won't have nearly the amount of strategic knowledge compared to the higher rated player.
B1ZMARK wrote:
No offense, but that's terrible advice. Open positions would be better since it's easier to trade off pieces, and gives the lower rated player a chance to show his calculation. Because it's easier to slip up in tactics than it is to slip up positionally/strategically - and chances are, you won't have nearly the amount of strategic knowledge compared to the higher rated player.
When I say closed positions, I mean like completely closed positions, as in all the pawns are lined up in the middle ranks. This is a lack of clarification on my part; when I said to go for a closed position, I meant something like the game below.
This usually only works when the opponent also wants to close the position, but it works sometimes. I think it's harder to get a draw in an open position compared to one as closed as the game above. What would this be called? Like a supper closed position?
Nennerb wrote:
When I say closed positions, I mean like completely closed positions, as in all the pawns are lined up in the middle ranks. This is a lack of clarification on my part; when I said to go for a closed position, I meant something like the game below.
This usually only works when the opponent also wants to close the position, but it works sometimes. I think it's harder to get a draw in an open position compared to one as closed as the game above. What would this be called? Like a supper closed position?
Here are some examples:
https://www.chess.com/game/live/34917649103
https://www.chess.com/game/live/15015566741
https://www.chess.com/game/live/13893714629
https://www.chess.com/game/live/13402360397
https://www.chess.com/game/live/33589197361
https://www.chess.com/game/live/34029013889
Jan 5, 2022
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#18
What I found so far:
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/scholastic-chess/how-to-provoke-a-draw
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https://www.chess.com/ka/lessons/squares-and-rules/how-to-make-a-draw
With everybody's favorite robo-coach - David.
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Studying the Nepo-Carlsen World Championship match. (In which none of them played for a draw, and yet the games were mostly drawn).
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Looking at master-games I guess.. especially drawn games with a wide margin of rating points:
Jan 5, 2022
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#19
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/most-and-least-drawish-sound-openings
Good comments there
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https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/lhbjiq/mostleast_drawish_of_the_top_10_players/
It seems that Kramnik and Radjabov are the most drawish, and we should look at their games. Kramnik is known to have nullified the Ruy Lopez - the strongest answer against 1...e5,2...Nc6 and a 400 years old opening. So.. it means something.
I don't get it with the Radjabov - GM G. Jones said that this man is the master of the King's Indian. so calling him drawish, seem flawish.
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Oh yeah, and I highly recommend this free course by GM G. Jones (this is for aggressive players - this man is known to have promoted the Grand Prix Attack against the Sicilian. So he knows attacking-chess)
https://www.chessable.com/short-sweet-kings-indian-defense/course/81522/
At first I was doubtful, but when I saw him covering the Samisch, Semi-Averbakh, Averbakh, and even h3 (the Karpov method) I got impressed. Generous man too - much free stuff.
Jan 6, 2022
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#20
https://www.chessable.com/the-immortal-draw/course/1835/
MoveTrainer™ Strategy course by IM
John Bartholomew (2534 USCF, 2446 FIDE)
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Maybe it teaches how to draw.
Hello chess lovers :-).
I recently started joining chess.com clubs and playing daily matches (you care).
So far, the opponents are equal or weaker. But what if the opponent is stronger?
I google-searched and found an answer in 'Reedit' that I like:
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Petrov and QGD for black
Colle system for white, if you can actually live with yourself playing like that
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I can, I'll live with that. I wonder what's more drawish - QGD or Semi-Slav.
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And there's this GM Seirawan's video:
I think I'd go with the most drawish opening I'm familiar with - The main-line Philidor. - I can't move (I'll make king-moves) and my opponent can't penetrate. Is Petrov / Russian Defense better (that is to say, more drawish) than the Philidor? It is the choice of Gelfand (the Petrov).
There's also an opening made by the GingerGM - "The Black Lion", which can be reached by either Philidor - Hanham Variation, or by the Pirc Defense. It's supposed to be an attacking opening, which I don't see how, since I'm no tactician, but I've noticed from experience, that it's a perfect defense. [yes, even though you don't castle], meaning - if your opponent gets all him ammo against you, it's still not enough, unless the pawn on e5 collapses, (which it shouldn't).
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Any suggestions? Corrections?