How to play against the Pillsbury setup in the Slav?

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Robert_New_Alekhine
mromanian wrote:

@Robert thanks I know about stonewall

Then can you help me?

X_PLAYER_J_X

Well I have heard of the Pillsbury Bind.Which I showed few days ago with Nc5

However, I read a comment by TitanCG which is shown below.

TitanCG wrote:

The Pillsbury attack is basically just White sticking a knight on e5 supported by pawns on d4 and f4 and trying to mate Black on h7. It's the kind of stuff White can get in certain d-pawn openings. I didn't know that Nc5 move actually had a similar name though

In his comment he said Pillsbury Attack. Which I never heard of a opening like that so I went to investigate. Apparently it is not considered an opening. It is more a formation which can be used in some Queens Gambit Decline lines.

There is actually a ECO on it.

ECO D55: Queen's Gambit Declined, Pillsbury attack

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e3 O-O 6. Nf3 b6 7. Bd3 Bb7 8. cxd5 exd5 9. Ne5

That is suppose to be the Pillsbury Attack formation.

There is also a chess.com video about it;however, I don't have full access not a paying member but it does the same formation and idea's.

http://www.chess.com/video/player/amazing-games-for-beginners-2

Its a formation so maybe you can use it in the Slav. I don't know.

Robert_New_Alekhine

Ok pfren, he posted a series of moves. Now you can be happy.

Robert_New_Alekhine
pfren wrote:
Robert0905 wrote:

Ok pfren, he posted a series of moves. Now you can be happy.

This is not a Slav, at the first place.

It doesn't have to be slav. Just a position.

Robert_New_Alekhine

Hello there.

Tatzelwurm

You still owe us a slav move order where white can reach this setup.

Robert_New_Alekhine
Tatzelwurm wrote:

You still owe us a slav move order where white can reach this setup.

Please re-read post 28.

Tatzelwurm

Ask proper questions if you want helpful answers. This thread makes no sense.

Robert_New_Alekhine

Er.....I think everything makes sense.

I am asking how to play against the Stonewall Attack against the QGD/Slav.

Robert_New_Alekhine

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Qi1
Qi1

I think I have given you a reasonable system, Robert0905. If not, tell me.

Qi1

You can play Ba6 if you wish, but I think you don't have to because black can always play g6 if the bishop is getting dangerous (which it will not because black will plant a knight onto e4.

X_PLAYER_J_X

The Pillsbury Attack is a formation and you can play formations in alot of chess lines.

However, In the Slav they usually play Nbd7 covering the e5 square.

To pull off the Pillsbury Attack you have to play Ne5 with your knight before they play Nbd7. Once Ne5 is played you answer Nbd7 by playing f4 with the idea of taking with the F pawn to open up the rook file.

It could happen if they play bad Slav moves. However, with my limited understanding of the Slav, I don't think you can get Ne5 followed with f4 fast enough. They usually play Nbd7 from my understanding.

However, Do not take my 100% word on that. I don't really play the Slav. I just rememeber seeing some other chess players play Nbd7 usually. I don't know what the move order is for when they play it. However, It often seemed like they played it some what early.

ForeverHoldYourPiece

Your title is a question but your paragraph leaves no elaboration of your concerns. 

Robert_New_Alekhine
Qi1 wrote:

You can play Ba6 if you wish, but I think you don't have to because black can always play g6 if the bishop is getting dangerous (which it will not because black will plant a knight onto e4.

Thanks.

Robert_New_Alekhine
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:

The Pillsbury Attack is a formation and you can play formations in alot of chess lines.

However, In the Slav they usually play Nbd7 covering the e5 square.

To pull off the Pillsbury Attack you have to play Ne5 with your knight before they play Nbd7. Once Ne5 is played you answer Nbd7 by playing f4 with the idea of taking with the F pawn to open up the rook file.

It could happen if they play bad Slav moves. However, with my limited understanding of the Slav, I don't think you can get Ne5 followed with f4 fast enough. They usually play Nbd7 from my understanding.

However, Do not take my 100% word on that. I don't really play the Slav. I just rememeber seeing some other chess players play Nbd7 usually. I don't know what the move order is for when they play it. However, It often seemed like they played it some what early.

What if white play f4 before Nf3?

Robert_New_Alekhine

@pfren, Post #25. I don't care that it's not a Slav.

I_Am_Second
Robert0905 wrote:

I have trouble finding a way to play against the Nf3-e5, f2-f4, check, check, mate, setups when I am playing the slav as black.

Could anyone help with this?

Sorry...dont study openings.  Cant help you, but good luck

Qi1

Show me how white stops the knight getting to e4,bb_gum234!