tygxc wrote:
#1
"How to study the Polish?"
Go to a data base and look up some grandmaster games and study these.
That's what I do
How to study the Polish
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Jul 10, 2021
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#23
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
theory and practice of the sokolsky is a good book, i think even better than the more well known play 1.b4!
otherwise play around with the engine. It's not that hard to learn. the 1.e5 2.bxb4 lines have a distinctive flavor and require a lot of prep from white to play it at high levels, but the other lines usually roughly resemble each other. For the most part, you just need some prep vs the anti polish lines, like 1.c6 and 2.qb6 or 2.a5. or 1.e5 2.f6 or 1.d5 2.1.qd6. the rest is mostly knowing whether you preper to play early b5 all the time or hold on with a3, whether you are an early d3 or early d4 guy, in some lines whether you prefer g3 to e3 etc.
I am a very well booked 1.b4 player so you can ask me any question on it. My first positive OTB game with a GM was with 1.b4 (a botched win on my end, was a whole piece up but sizzled into a draw after suboptimal play by me in low time).
I have a question already lol
what are the positional and strategic plans?
and does white play on the kingside or queenside, or does it depend on the position?
in most lines, white's play revolves around having a lot of space on the queenside while keeping a good foothold in the center. Sometimes, play takes on a Queen's gambit flavor with d4 although white usually needs to time it right.
the standard set up for most replies to it is roughtly the same b4-bb2-e3-nf3-c4-be2-0-0, with queen, queen's knight and the d pawn placement depending from position to position and personal taste. white's pawn often ends up in b5 fairly early, although restrained lines with a3 also exist.
Ok thanks!
Which line do you prefer? A3 stuff or b5
it depends on the occasion and how much i feel like fighting for a win. b5 is more thematic but in some lines, it can turn to an equalish endgame if black feels like it. a3 keeps the tension longer, and sometimes, if black throws in a c5, you can actually capture it and get an acceptable game.
if black plays a KID or old indian formation, i like to play b5 early (or sometimes, you can even get a row of a4-b4-c4-d4).
vs 1.e5 2.f6 , i usually prefer a3, because of possibilities of bxc5, Bxc5 d4!.
vs QID i prefer a3 unless forced to play b5, they are some endgame lines where both sides swap queen rooks, but the position is nearly symmetrical but the queenside pawns are b5-c4 for white, and b6-c5 for black, and its a dead equal endgame , although white may find the extra space gives him a feather bit more chances.
finally, vs 1.e5 , i do sometimes play 2.a3 (instead of 2.bb2 3.bxe5) , esp if i feel my opponent is booked to the teeth in the bxb4 line, but i mostly play the mainline. 2.b5 here is premature
Thanks this is really informative
Jul 10, 2021
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#24
What i like doing to learn weird openings, my specialty, is to first annotate by myself at least 5-7 master games to get a sense of what is going on because some weird openings don't have much theory. I then play at least 10-15 games with my opening prep to see what people will most likely play against me. Finally, once I memorized the theory and plans I've created from studying the opening i'm studying, I will NOW look up the existing theory of the opening and challenge it with my theory I created and plans of my theory.
Right now I'm studying the Elephant gambit. I've played many games with it online and have studied some master games on it, games of philip corbin. Now that I have enough experience with this opening, I am now ready to get the book, which I already just got, the exhilarating elephant gambit, and to now challenge the existing theory to the one I created.
If you follow these steps, you will be able to learn the polish opening quite well! Good luck and have fun with the Polish!
Jul 10, 2021
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#25
TheBishopDiagonal wrote:
What i like doing to learn weird openings, my specialty, is to first annotate by myself at least 5-7 master games to get a sense of what is going on because some weird openings don't have much theory. I then play at least 10-15 games with my opening prep to see what people will most likely play against me. Finally, once I memorized the theory and plans I've created from studying the opening i'm studying, I will NOW look up the existing theory of the opening and challenge it with my theory I created and plans of my theory.
Right now I'm studying the Elephant gambit. I've played many games with it online and have studied some master games on it, games of philip corbin. Now that I have enough experience with this opening, I am now ready to get the book, which I already just got, the exhilarating elephant gambit, and to now challenge the existing theory to the one I created.
If you follow these steps, you will be able to learn the polish opening quite well! Good luck and have fun with the Polish!
wow really nice idea! this is must be how the originals make the theory!
Jul 10, 2021
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#26
if you are gonna study master games. study games by Sokolsky who was a very strong IM (def GM strength by today's standards).
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1084105
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1313089
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1045172
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1048818
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1557915
a nice variation is the Santasiere's Folly:
And if Nf6:
Here is the line I was talking about earlier on the forum.
Jul 14, 2021
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#29
MyNameIsNotBuddy wrote:
Here is the line I was talking about earlier on the forum.
yeah this is excellnt for white
Grob is better.
Tails204 wrote:
Grob is better.
Is this serious or joking?
MyNameIsNotBuddy wrote:
Tails204 wrote:
Grob is better.
Is this serious or joking?
Check out my games. In 2021 I played many rated games, using this opening
#1
"How to study the Polish?"
Go to a data base and look up some grandmaster games and study these.