[HURT HEAL] Indian Openings

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1. You may only vote once every 12 hours.

2. Heal adds 1 health, hurt removes 2 health.

3. +10 health for all remaining openings when 5, 4, 3, and 2 openings remain.

Here are the openings:

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 20

3. Nimzo Indian 20

4. Queen's Indian 20

5. Bogo-Indian 20

6. King's Indian 20

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 20

9. Budapest Gambit 20

10. Colle System 20

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Heal Dutch, Hurt Benko Gambit

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 18

3. Nimzo Indian 20

4. Queen's Indian 20

5. Bogo-Indian 20

6. King's Indian 20

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 21

9. Budapest Gambit 20

10. Colle System 20


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heal nimzo hurt colle

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 18

3. Nimzo Indian 21

4. Queen's Indian 20

5. Bogo-Indian 20

6. King's Indian 20

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 21

9. Budapest Gambit 20

10. Colle System 18

and Rule #4: You must post the results after you vote

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heal Nimzo hurt Budapest

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 18

3. Nimzo Indian 22

4. Queen's Indian 20

5. Bogo-Indian 20

6. King's Indian 20

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 21

9. Budapest Gambit 18

10. Colle System 18

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Heal Budapest Hurt Bogo

 

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 18

3. Nimzo Indian 22

4. Queen's Indian 20

5. Bogo-Indian 18

6. King's Indian 20

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 21

9. Budapest Gambit 19

10. Colle System 18

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heal king's hurt bogo

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 18

3. Nimzo Indian 22

4. Queen's Indian 20

5. Bogo-Indian 16

6. King's Indian 21

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 21

9. Budapest Gambit 19

10. Colle System 18

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Heal Dutch Hurt Benko Gambit

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 16

3. Nimzo Indian 22

4. Queen's Indian 20

5. Bogo-Indian 16

6. King's Indian 21

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 22

9. Budapest Gambit 19

10. Colle System 18

 

And by the way, the OP was drunk when creating this list.  The Dutch and Colle are NOT Indian Defenses


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they're d4 openings that aren't queen' s gambits. i call those indian defences.

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heal queen's hurt colle

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 16

3. Nimzo Indian 23

4. Queen's Indian 21

5. Bogo-Indian 16

6. King's Indian 21

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 22

9. Budapest Gambit 17

10. Colle System 16

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heal king's hurt dutch

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 16

3. Nimzo Indian 23

4. Queen's Indian 21

5. Bogo-Indian 16

6. King's Indian 22

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 20

9. Budapest Gambit 17

10. Colle System 16

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You should have put the Trompowsky here!

Nevermind...

Heal King's Indian, hurt Dutch.

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 16

3. Nimzo Indian 23

4. Queen's Indian 21

5. Bogo-Indian 16

6. King's Indian 23

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 18

9. Budapest Gambit 17

10. Colle System 16

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Albatrosinus, the Trompowsky is NOT an Indian Defense.  Of course, neither are the Dutch or Colle System.  The author of the OP is either not that bright, or drunk at the time of the original post!

That said, head Dutch, Hurt Benko Gambit

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 14

3. Nimzo Indian 23

4. Queen's Indian 21

5. Bogo-Indian 16

6. King's Indian 23

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 19

9. Budapest Gambit 17

10. Colle System 16

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Heal Budapest. Hurt KID

 

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 14

3. Nimzo Indian 23

4. Queen's Indian 21

5. Bogo-Indian 16

6. King's Indian 21

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 19

9. Budapest Gambit 18

10. Colle System 16

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At least the Trompowsky starts by 1. d4 Nf6... even if there isn't c4, I think it's closer to an Indian than the Dutch.

Heal Bogo, hurt Benko

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 14

3. Nimzo Indian 23

4. Queen's Indian 21

5. Bogo-Indian 17

6. King's Indian 23

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 18

9. Budapest Gambit 17

10. Colle System 16

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albatrosinus, if "Indian Defenses" are those classified by 1.d4 Nf6, then the Torre, London, Colle, Veresov, etc would all be Indian Defenses.  They aren't!

Indian Defenses are specifically those that start 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 and don't transpose elsewhere, like 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 d5 is a direct transposition to the Queen's Gambit Declined, and is therefore not an "Indian" defense.

In essence, you have the following that fall under the category:

King's Indian
Grunfeld
Benko Gambit
Modern Benoni
Czech Benoni
Nimzo-Indian
Bogo-Indian
Queen's Indian
Budapest Gambit (Arguable - some would say this isn't)

I believe that's all of them unless I'm drawing a blank on one of them.

The reason 1.d4 Nf6 doesn't constitute an "Indian" defense is the same reason that 1.d4 d5 doesnt constitute the "Queen's Gambit", and 1.e4 e5 isn't the "Ruy Lopez".  It could become a Ruy Lopez, but isn't one yet, and White playing 2.Nf3 after 1.d4 Nf6 is just like White playing 2.f4 after 1.e4 e5.  That's why you can't classify most openings after 1 move.

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heal queens hurt bogo

1. Benoni 20

2. Benko Gambit 14

3. Nimzo Indian 23

4. Queen's Indian 22

5. Bogo-Indian 15

6. King's Indian 23

7. Grunfeld 20

8. Dutch 18

9. Budapest Gambit 17

10. Colle System 16

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I know ... I didn't say it was an Indian Defence, I said it was CLOSER to an Indian Defence... 

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BTW, I don't know what a Colle system is... (when I play white, I play e4; when I play black against d4 I play the King's Indian)

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So I thought 1. d4 Nf6 was "Indian Defence" just like 1. e4 Nc6 is "Nimzowitsch Defence" or 1. d4 c5 is "Old Benoni" (I think it is... not sure)

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Sorry about the mess-up, guys. I read a book that classified Indian openings as any non-QG d4 opening.