In a recent post it was reccomended for me to play the Petrov which makes me... - Chess Forums

Heidrich

Dec 24, 2012

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Curious. The petroff defence is known as "dull and uninspiring" but is that true? What if a begginer picked up the petrov and only studied endgame would he be a monster? I want to play as a win with black does the petrov offer that if i am good at endgames? I looked on chessgames.com and it said out of Kramniks 101 games with the petrov he has had 8 wins- 3 loses- and the rest all draws.

NimzoRoy

Dec 24, 2012

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Kramnik's record can hardy be considered an accurate yardstick for players in your class - or mine either for that matter: Neither one of us is likely to end up with a 90% draw ratio playing the Petrov or any other defense! BUT yes it is more drawish than "usual" for most openings. As for it being dull and uninspiring, Grandmasters Karpov, Yusupov,, Marshall, Kramnik, and Pillsbury have frequently played the Petrov as Black. That's enuff inspiration for me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroff_Defense

Heidrich

Dec 24, 2012

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Thank you both so much. I am only looking for two things in my openings. 1.they will teach me how to play chess and further my education in chess, which is why i play 1. e4 and 1...e5 where all of us should begin. I just want to make sure one last time can i play for a win with the petrov if i study enough?

Crazychessplaya

Dec 24, 2012

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It's just as exciting and fun as the Ruy Lopez Berlin.

tigergutt

Dec 24, 2012

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yeah the berlin is pretty sharp except if white tries to avoid the berlin endgame

Crazychessplaya

Dec 24, 2012

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Ever heard the expression "tongue in cheek"? Didn't think so.

waffllemaster

Dec 24, 2012

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paulgottlieb wrote:

All this agonizing over the choice of openings makes no sense at all. The chess we play bears no resemblance at all to the chess Kramnik, Carlsen, Anand and Nakamura play. The Petroff may or may not be a drawing weapon at the 2700+ level, but at our level, our games are going to be dominated by tactical opportunities and blunders. Worrying about whether the Petroff is more drawish that the Berlin Defense is just a ridiculous waste of time. All these opening s provide plenty of scope for the ordinary player--including plenty of scope for mistakes! Pick any reasonable opening and play chess! That's the only way you'll get better. Switching your openings around because of changes in fashion at the super-grandmaster level is just idiotic. If you're not a strong master, then no matter how refined your choice of openings, the game is eventually going to come down to an axe fight.

Yep. +1

Crazychessplaya

Dec 24, 2012

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#8

+1. I wonder if all those "chess Nazis" ever watched a certain Seinfeld episode?

blake78613

Dec 24, 2012

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Heidrich wrote:

Curious. The petroff defence is known as "dull and uninspiring" but is that true? What if a begginer picked up the petrov and only studied endgame would he be a monster? I want to play as a win with black does the petrov offer that if i am good at endgames? I looked on chessgames.com and it said out of Kramniks 101 games with the petrov he has had 8 wins- 3 loses- and the rest all draws.

If you are good at endgames, you should be able (as Black) to draw the slightly inferior endgame you get from the Petroff. White has what winning chances there are in the typical Petroff endgame.

plutonia

Dec 25, 2012

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paulgottlieb wrote:

All this agonizing over the choice of openings makes no sense at all. The chess we play bears no resemblance at all to the chess Kramnik, Carlsen, Anand and Nakamura play. The Petroff may or may not be a drawing weapon at the 2700+ level, but at our level, our games are going to be dominated by tactical opportunities and blunders. Worrying about whether the Petroff is more drawish that the Berlin Defense is just a ridiculous waste of time. All these opening s provide plenty of scope for the ordinary player--including plenty of scope for mistakes! Pick any reasonable opening and play chess! That's the only way you'll get better. Switching your openings around because of changes in fashion at the super-grandmaster level is just idiotic. If you're not a strong master, then no matter how refined your choice of openings, the game is eventually going to come down to an axe fight.

Yes but when you don't have any pawn majority nor any other kind of imbalance I would say it is more drawish even for club players.

No matter what's your level, symmetrical positions are more dull that unbalanced ones.