Interesting Variation in the Caro-Kann (Worth Looking At)

Looks like a crap opening to me thb. 

It looks interesting, and I see there are some wild e6 pawn sacs, but Bg5 just looks suspicious. 

The lines where Black takes the rook are interesting, computer says it is -1 but the line the computer suggests looks too weakening.

How would you answer 8...e6 btw?

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t looks interesting, and I see there are some wild e6 pawn sacs, but Bg5 just looks suspicious. 

The lines where Black takes the rook are interesting, computer says it is -1 but the line the computer suggests looks too weakening.

How would you answer 8...e6 btw?> 

Suspicious how? Look at your database. It has a decent record against 2600+ opposition.  If you take the b pawn, you are clearly worse, which is why almost no one takes it.

After 8...e6, White can continue with 9. 0-0, and if he takes the rook I can just play 10. Qb3 as in the game, or if 9...Qb6, then 10. Nbd2 is perfectly fine. I have Rfb1 coming.

Databases do not tell if a move is good or bad.

I think you might want to analyze the line a bit more. 

Can you tell me why no GM has ever taken the b pawn? Oh, wait, you can't. Again, 10. 0-0 and the development of five pieces trumps the loss of a pawn. Going back to basics.

Wow, you are a disgusting piece of crap.

I have showed you the analysis, you are the one saying the line is OK. Back up your claims with analysis or please shut the hell up. 

The "no GM has played that" just shows your chess ignorance, chess is an analysis game, not a statistics game. Going back to basics.

Why did you created this thread anyways? To share and discuss an interesting line or to act like an autistic kid with an episode denying all analysis and just saying White is ahead in development?

The line is interesting, I dont personally like it (Something simpler like the Exchange or 3.Nd2 is what I like), and I dont think a refutation for Black's play exist.

However you are a prick, and I have no interest in discussing with a retard that somehow thinks he knows something about chess.

See ya.

You probably had the retarded idea that White was gonna mate Black somehow right? Well, as you can see White is gonna try and play on the queenside, as if this was some sort of Benko.

The line is rather dubious: 6... Qxd4 7. Nf3 Qg4 is good for Black, and almost every other sensible move except for 6... Qxb2?! equalizes.

You got really triggered.  17. Rfb1 b5 18. Be3 and White is much better. "Durr! You are two pawns down!" Are you a kid or something? Activity and pressure trumps two pawns.

I mean seriously. Even Stockfish gives white an advantage in that position. 

6...Qxb2 does not equalize. You are giving White way too much activity. The line you gave with 6...Qxd4 is much better.

The point of the opening is to develop as quickly as possible. it's no more dubious than the Alekhine-Chatard Attack.

I call BS. Stockfish believes Black is slightly better in that position at first, and consistent with BronsteinPawn's take on it, as you input the computer line 1... Rb6 2. Nf1 Qg4 3. Ng3 Nc7 4. Bd2 Ra6 5. Qe1 Nc8 6. Qc1 Kd7 7. Rc3 Qg6, the evaluation shifts from -0.3 to -0.8.

What I said was that 6... Qxb2?! is about the only sensible move that doesn't equalize.

Forgot to click the unfollow button.

Chesster, dont waste time with that kiddo.

The OP has  a crap brain (if he even has one) and does not seem to understand that +.3 is not an advantage, and that we are not computers.

Your comparison to the Alekhine-Chatard Attack is BS too. In the Alekhine-Chatard, White sacks an h-pawn to open the h-file and gain a couple of important tempi for an attack in an openng where he is supposed to attack on the kingside. After 6. h4!? Bxg5 7. hxg5 Qxg5 8. Nh3 Qe7 9. Qg4, White has some dangerous attacking chances. He can play Bd3 with tempo right away, and moves like Ng5 and Qh5 will be annoying.

In the Advance Caro-Kann, White isn't supposed to attack like a madman. Black has done nothing wrong. He has created no weaknesses in his position.

Cheap tricks, I say.

@BronsteinPawn: Point taken.

Yes, the Alekhine Chatard Attack is a whole different game.

As my analysis shows, the line is interesting, and I agree with Chesster, Black doesnt need to play Qb6-Qxb2, he is just fine, but if he wants to, he can take the 2 pawns and make things sharp, forcing White to try and crack Black's queenside.