Is 1..g6 always playable?

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gnomechessman

Can g6 by black be automatically played in response to any white opening move without getting an opening disadvantage?

alexgtmmo

gnomechessman wrote:

Can g6 by black be automatically played in response to any white opening move without getting an opening disadvantage?

yes. almost any opening.

TalSpin

YES! You do need to study it, though. Against some lines, playing off the cuff with moves that SEEM right to you can put you at a disadvantage. But for the most part, the Pirc/Modern/KID/Sniper, whatever you want to call it, is very versatile. You'll find yourself in a somewhat cramped position many times. Don't panic. That's the idea. Often, white will become ambitious due to overconfidence and play against his own position. That's when the g6 system really shines.

btl1230
Except 1.b3
Stay138
I think it's okey 1.b3 g6 2.Bb2 Nf6
Cherub_Enjel

Yes.

Yigor

Yes. More generally, U can play KID / Pirc / modern defense against everything. grin.png

LTwo
So is c5
Cherub_Enjel

Well, I wouldn't like 1.b4 c5 as black. I don't even like 1.e4 c5 2.b4 as black. 

fieldsofforce
gnomechessman wrote:

Can g6 by black be automatically played in response to any white opening move without getting an opening disadvantage?

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1.e4 g6 2.d4.   Allowing White the central Pawn duo is almost always a  bad idea.

schrodingerforluv

after 1 h4 g6 2 h5, white has a plus.

fieldsofforce
zac_howland wrote:
fieldsofforce wrote:
gnomechessman wrote:

Can g6 by black be automatically played in response to any white opening move without getting an opening disadvantage?

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1.e4 g6 2.d4.   Allowing White the central Pawn duo is almost always a  bad idea.

Yes, those darn hypermodernists and their notion of letting white occupy the center.  What were they thinking!?

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I play hypermodern chess when the position calls for it.  But, 1e4 g6 2.d4 is suicidal  chess I don't play

penandpaper0089

You can premove it with no trouble.

xjvz27493

According to 365chess, 1.b4 c5 is very favorable to black (.283/.283/.435).

fieldsofforce

I can tell  you don't get it  Niether in the Classical nor the Hypermodern is it a good idea to permit your opponent to set up the pawn duo in the center

xjvz27493

I can tell  you don't get it  Niether in the Classical nor the Hypermodern is it a good idea to permit your opponent to set up the pawn duo in the center

 

I'm no expert, but really?  Have you heard of the gruenfeld exchange variation?

fieldsofforce

Have you completely forgotten.  1.e4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7,Bb5+ c6 8.Ba4 0-0 9.Ne2 Nd7 10.0-0 e5.  Twice in ten moves black has challenged White to keep him from establishing a central pawn duo. 

Cherub_Enjel

fieldsofforce wrote:

Have you completely forgotten.  1.e4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7,Bb5+ c6 8.Ba4 0-0 9.Ne2 Nd7 10.0-0 e5.  Twice in ten moves black has challenged White to keep him from establishing a central pawn duo. 

I think the best way to stop white from setting up the pawn duo is 2...Nxe4, and it also wins a free pawn (which is a bit more important).

Apart from that there's a bunch of hanging pieces and illegal moves, but what does that matter?

Cherub_Enjel
zac_howland wrote:
fieldsofforce wrote:

Have you completely forgotten.  1.e4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7,Bb5+ c6 8.Ba4 0-0 9.Ne2 Nd7 10.0-0 e5.  Twice in ten moves black has challenged White to keep him from establishing a central pawn duo. 

 

That is a transposed English opening from the Alekhine Defense.  That is not even the mainline for the Alekhine defense, and even then g6 is the 4th most common move in the <50 games played in that position (with a grand total of 3 games played - and 2 of them were wins for black).

Again, you need to pick up a book on hypermodern strategy.

It has nothing to do with the Alekhine's Defense. Not only does it contain a trivial typo that completely destroys the variation (and threw you off apparently, since the first move is totally plausible) the variation itself doesn't even prove anything. 

fieldsofforce

Now you want to talk transpositions into the Alekhine's.  Stop wasting my time.  Post about the central pawn duo and Black attempting to destroy it.