Is b4 opening for white correct?
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Look at the statistics, black scores more than 50%, almost as well as white does in other openings. Even f3 (Gefuld's Opening) scores better!
bronowsky wrote:
..Polish.... no no....
its quite intresting tht fischer played and why was it evn strtd if it can only be played if u find sm sriously strong trap in opening or smth like in a 5 min game
B4 is unserious but playable.
The gambit Line is:
1. b4 e5 2. Bb2 f6 3. e4 Bxb4 4. Bc4 and White plays f4, this is OK for White and he has attacking chances and activity.
It is better than g4
vill0236 wrote:
It is better than g4
b4 should be bttr than g4 at least ur kingside is ok
If you are really serious then you should ignore the trolls, and let me say that it is 'not wrong' rather than 'right'. Since the first move will never decide the game result, but will decide your whole opening system, this move is a little bad because it inherently forces a3 and Bb2 fianchetto. Why show your opponent what you are going to do this early? The variation below does not gain advantages against black, and you can't hope for better, so in a long game you should make a move which gives you more than one solid development strategies. This would force your opponent to think harder and get confused or tired. However, it you're playing blitz, you can use this move(1.b4) to surprise the opponent and gain a time advantage.
Here is an example:
more or less i feel it is black who gets bttr development than white..!!
RetiFan wrote:
If you are really serious then you should ignore the trolls, and let me say that it is 'not wrong' rather than 'right'. Since the first move will never decide the game result, but will decide your whole opening system, this move is a little bad because it inherently forces a3 and Bb2 fianchetto. Why show your opponent what you are going to do this early? The variation below does not gain advantages against black, and you can't hope for better, so in a long game you should make a move which gives you more than one solid development strategies. This would force your opponent to think harder and get confused or tired. However, it you're playing blitz, you can use this move(1.b4) to surprise the opponent and gain a time advantage.
Here is an example:
thnkz ur idea was brilliant
bongcloudftw wrote:
@retifan
i think in your diagram white should play b5 instead of a3. b5 stops knight at c6 and evades the threat while a3 uses a tempo to prevent bxb4.
basically most amateurs don't know the way to play against it so it should be fine till 2k+
u r right here i think at some point with the help of engines any amateur player can find a good way to go to bttr middle game..!!
GarryAlekhine wrote:
yes its playable but like as every openings need to practice more
yes i think it is the frst move it is playable bt i dnt think at top level it will evr be played white is worse after the mve b4?
Aug 30, 2013
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KingGS007 wrote:
GarryAlekhine wrote:
yes its playable but like as every openings need to practice more
yes i think it is the frst move it is playable bt i dnt think at top level it will evr be played white is worse after the mve b4?
i dont know becasue i didnt play it before.lets have an online game with this opening to learn more about it my friend
Here are some ideas in this opening:
1) Meets Opening Principle #1 (Development after Bb2 w/ Good: Central Control, might I add...) 1.d4 and 1.e4 grant additional central control and doesn't weaken the queenside
2) Offers: Protection of Rook on a1. The rook is in no danger in the opening, and black doesn't have any real prospects of attacking it in the opening unless white screws up badly. Even then, I've played in certain Leningrad Dutch positions where Bxa1? would be a mistake due to the lack of important open files and substituting a black bishop for white queen on the dark squares.
3) Threatens at least a Pawn after Bb2. (My Principle: Intimidation) A pawn that's defended by the bishop and easily defended in the middlegame usually.
4) The dream of b5 CAN be Realized, if Provoked w/ a5 or c5, which has the Advatadge of gaining Tempi of Black's queen-side knight OR taking away, those squares from it.... What if black doesn't even play Nc6?
5) b4 can be Protected w/ a3, or Exchanged for the e-pawn (usually).... (Key Variations) I don't know which is Better, but as of Now, I like the Added Protection because it makes Black's Bishop, Bite on Granite.... Although, looking at Statistical Results: People seem to play the exchange better! (Probably because Nf3 can be easily played without the Fear of e4 (by Black). Bishops can be quite comfortable on e7 or d6. Knights and pawns can provoke and/or exploit other weaknesses.
6) The Plan is: e3, c4, Nc3 (all supporting a b5 PUSH) The issue in the center isn't even resolved.
7) It makes more sense to Bring Pieces to Bear on the Black King-side, as that is usually prefered to castle too... whereas the Queen can "jump" stay on her side, or FOCUS on the king side, if Needed.... What if the kingside is solid with no sound attacking prospects for white? Find a good opening, note imbalances, and recall strategies that rely upon said imbalances. A queenside pawn push makes sense in a Carlsbad structure as it helps to weaken c6, and clamping on the c5 square to prevent black from playing his thematic c5 push, or pushing d5 against e6 if white has an isolated pawn, and black preventing such a manouver are basic examples.
8) The pawns which (which, or that?) are pushed are the Pawns to be Promoted or Traded off.... Good if Black plays 0-0. (Or, if Traded, then open File Attack!)
Source:
http://www.chessforums.org/chess-openings/11567-1-b4-ideas.html
There was a thread on this a few months ago. The problem seemed to be the main line oddly enough:
Aug 30, 2013
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im playing it now for analyse.its not good opening it just help opponent,s development
bronowsky wrote:
...agree.
yep
Maybe 1.b3 e4 2.d4 is okay for white but the queen bishop cannot help the queenside
Nicholas2002GM wrote:
Maybe 1.b3 e4 2.d4 is okay for white but the queen bishop cannot help the queenside
thnkz