2 of my games against orangutan:
The first game was played with 2 hours each, the second with 25 minutes.
Is b4 opening for white correct?
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Sep 5, 2013
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Sep 5, 2013
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ViktorHNielsen wrote:
2 of my games against orangutan:
The first game was played with 2 hours each, the second with 25 minutes.
what is NN?
NN is Not Named, means an unknown player.
ScorpionPackAttack wrote:
Here are some ideas in this opening:
1) Meets Opening Principle #1 (Development after Bb2 w/ Good: Central Control, might I add...) 1.d4 and 1.e4 grant additional central control and doesn't weaken the queenside
2) Offers: Protection of Rook on a1. The rook is in no danger in the opening, and black doesn't have any real prospects of attacking it in the opening unless white screws up badly. Even then, I've played in certain Leningrad Dutch positions where Bxa1? would be a mistake due to the lack of important open files and substituting a black bishop for white queen on the dark squares.
3) Threatens at least a Pawn after Bb2. (My Principle: Intimidation) A pawn that's defended by the bishop and easily defended in the middlegame usually.
4) The dream of b5 CAN be Realized, if Provoked w/ a5 or c5, which has the Advatadge of gaining Tempi of Black's queen-side knight OR taking away, those squares from it.... What if black doesn't even play Nc6?
5) b4 can be Protected w/ a3, or Exchanged for the e-pawn (usually).... (Key Variations) I don't know which is Better, but as of Now, I like the Added Protection because it makes Black's Bishop, Bite on Granite.... Although, looking at Statistical Results: People seem to play the exchange better! (Probably because Nf3 can be easily played without the Fear of e4 (by Black). Bishops can be quite comfortable on e7 or d6. Knights and pawns can provoke and/or exploit other weaknesses.
6) The Plan is: e3, c4, Nc3 (all supporting a b5 PUSH) The issue in the center isn't even resolved.
7) It makes more sense to Bring Pieces to Bear on the Black King-side, as that is usually prefered to castle too... whereas the Queen can "jump" stay on her side, or FOCUS on the king side, if Needed.... What if the kingside is solid with no sound attacking prospects for white? Find a good opening, note imbalances, and recall strategies that rely upon said imbalances. A queenside pawn push makes sense in a Carlsbad structure as it helps to weaken c6, and clamping on the c5 square to prevent black from playing his thematic c5 push, or pushing d5 against e6 if white has an isolated pawn, and black preventing such a manouver are basic examples.
8) The pawns which (which, or that?) are pushed are the Pawns to be Promoted or Traded off.... Good if Black plays 0-0. (Or, if Traded, then open File Attack!)
Source:
http://www.chessforums.org/chess-openings/11567-1-b4-ideas.html
thnkz for ur help
Of course it's not correct. How could it be when a move like 1...c6 practically equalizes? What is up with these threads about 1. b4 and 1...b6 and other crap openings? It's as bad as non-stop threads about the Parham. There should be a special opening sub-forum for craptastic openings.
It would be correct but 1. b4 is not craptastic. Even 1. a3 is not craptastic, since white has the first move advantage, all these moves have are possible. Chess is a game of seeing what others can not, good chess players always consider every possible move, not just the natural moves. Even in the highest level 1. b4, 1. a3, 1. g4 are sometimes played. Who are we to oppose these guys??
May 29, 2020
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i have played 1.b4 my whole career with fine results agaisnt even strong master players (my first GM draw OTBwas with it, and it was from a botched clean win!).
if you want to diss an opening, speak lines. Show me where black achieves something substantial, (and no equality is not substantial, anything from 1.g3 to like opening #9 or 10 in popularity is equal anyways
1.b4 c6!? is very easy to play as black... Already =+, few openings give you this kind of evaluation at move 1 for black!
Of course 1.b4 e5 is fine but 1.b4 c6 leads to unpleasant positions for white.
I can share few analysis/ideas if u want.
May 29, 2020
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#32
poucin schreef:
1.b4 c6!? is very easy to play as black... Already =+, few openings give you this kind of evaluation at move 1 for black!
Of course 1.b4 e5 is fine but 1.b4 c6 leads to unpleasant positions for white.
I can share few analysis/ideas if u want.
Please do. I have a special interest in this line as black.
Ok some ideas :
Black just obtains some kind of improved queen's gambit declined.
Here some blitz I played :
Sure, opposition was rather weak but it illustrates how black can play, and how white should not play!
May 29, 2020
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#34
Much obliged. Very interesting. I have been playing 1...c6 against 1.b4 because of a a recommendation in the book Beating Unusual Chess Openings. I find it to be less critical then taking white on with 1...e5, which requires accurate move order. 1...c6 allows some more creativity. Sure, a serious 1.b4 player will have studied it, but probably much less then 1...e5.
May 29, 2020
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#35
I have encountered the orange ape a few times. I always reply the same way, which seems to unnerve people for some reason. I can only suspect they just expect you to take the pawn?
Indeed, diagrams 1 and 2 just give some analysis found in Beating Unusual Chess Opening, by Richard Palliser. I gave the major lines.
I dont know why I told it was Nigel Davies, my mistake.
In my games, I played a bit differently with e5 instead of d5.
May 30, 2020
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#37
Poucin, no offense but your analysis on b4 is quite weak for a player of your skill level.
1.b4 c5 2.bb2 qb6 4.a3 a5 5.c4 line is dead equal if not slightly better for white, you showed a game where white played terribly, for example d6 e3! and white has advantage.
You also dont mention the sideline 2...qb6 3.a3 a5 4. nf3!? axb4 5.bd4! and white doesnt have to settle for the closed lines above.
1.b4 c6 2. bb2 a5 3. b5! is actually a very good gambit after cxb5 4. e4 b4 5. a3 white has enough compensation for the pawn and will develop rapidly.
but all of this is completely unnecessary, since white can just play 1.b4 c6 2.c4 and avoid any funny business in either line.
May 30, 2020
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#38
here is another line showing key omissions
or if d6 nf3 na6 cxd6 qxd6 b5! , the idea is clear, white should not prematurely play d4 too early.
I think I disagree with all your evaluations lol, especially your last diagram, where black is between slightly and clearly better in my opinion (after a developing move like 10...Nbd7).
B3 Is actually the queen Indian defence
Maybe 1.b3 e4 2.d4 is okay for white but the queen bishop cannot help the queenside
thnkz
thnkz ..:)