false, dont ever compare the trash french to the godly caro kann
I just did! Whatcha gonna do about it?
1.e4 c6?! 2.d4 d5 3.f3! 1-0
1.e4 e6! 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 with play for both sides
1.e4 e6! 2.d4 d5 3.e5 with play for both sides
1.e4 e6! 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2?! =
1.e4 e6! 2.d4 d5 3.exd5?! =
I'm pretty sure the Fantasy variation is not refutation of the Caro Kann. Black only has to worry if he has no past experience or knowledge about it.
Hmmmmm just curious when was the last time the caro Kann was played in an important high level GM tournament or world championship match?
Hmmmmm just curious when was the last time the caro Kann was played in an important high level GM tournament or world championship match?
It was played in the 2013 world championship
Okay...thanks didnt realize that 
i like 1. f3 e6 2.g4
And is frequently played in high-level tournaments.
Havent noticed that either. Did anybody in the recent candidates play it? I remember seeing some games in the french but not the caro Kann.
We are mere mortals not engines
1e4 c6
2d4 d5
3 f3 qb6 !
try that one then 
indeed. As a life-long CK player, I wouldn't go Extreme and play ... Qb6?! right out of the gate😬. Rather, just play slowly but surely as in 3. ... dxe4 (always the consistent ice-breaker in many lines vs White) 4. fxe4 e5. Remember, the idea is always to provoke White into attacking & we parry. The Fantasy Variation or Tartakower's line is a perfect example. As it is, the Caro•Kann has been played by World Champions in Championship matches: Botvinnik, Karpov, Kasparov soo by default CK is and has been certifiably verified as a perfectly viable defence played at all levels... Then, Now and of course in the Future. No doubt
In fact, I equate the French as a Boxer in a defensive "Shell" vs an Aggressive boxer whereas the CK is (to me) a blue belt BJJ practitioner vs an Aggressive Boxer. Hope it's clear what I'm trying to differentiate between the two in Mindset.
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"Did anybody in the recent candidates play it? I"
++ At the Yekaterinburg Candidates' there were 3 French Defences and a single Caro-Kann.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2042163
At the Madrid Candidates' there was only 1...e5 and 1...c5, neither French, nor Caro-Kann.
indeed. Can anyone quote how many times in the past 50 years the Caro-Kann or the French has been played more often in Candidates or WC matches. I know the Answer but wonder if there is something I don't know. Appreciate it 🤙🏼
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No worries, I am not an expert, still a beginner, but the Caro-Kann is playable, like nearly every other opening or Opening system. Keep or start playing! :-)
Keep or start playing?
I'll pass and stick with the French.
Facing the Caro-Kann is like having an extremely attractive woman in a hotel room with you! Full of fantasies (3.f3!!) and lots of success! (1-0)
You Absolute Mad Lad
Engines do not know how to play chess.
In that case, what do you call a player who loses to a player who does not know how to play chess?
A human.
Whoops. I didn't pay attention to Black's first move and thought you were talking about the Caro-Kann...