Is the Sicilian meant for chess experts only?

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bucklou12

 depends what u consider an expert. what rating would that be?

 

SmyslovFan

+2000 USCF is expert strength.

Smositional

It's not an illegal opening so just play it.

DjonniDerevnja

I think the sound openings is good for anyone, and I also think that a sound opening fights for center, development and king safety. Sicilian can be played like that and therefore is good both for beginners and grandmasters.

 

IMKeto
Stauntonmaster wrote:

Anyone can play sicilian.

True...anyone can play it.  But not anyone can play it well.

Larry0215

when I hear someone say don't play such and such opening unless you intend to go against the best. the opening requires tons of study and practice.....just don't bother. Anyone that would take that advice and simply walk away. Never wants to become better at all

LouStule
xartesit03 wrote:

lou i have a better W/L ratio than you

Excellent. Please post some wins here. This thread is to prove that the Sicilian is not just for experts only!

LouStule


Time to revive this thread.  I've had a few good wins with the Sicilian lately but this one was especially satisfying because of move 27. I feel it was an extremely strong move and most likely ended up winning me the game even though later analysis showed it as an "inaccuracy".

RoobieRoo

is good yah!

SmyslovFan

Bear in mind, @LouStule, your overall record as Black in daily chess is: 

  • Black:147 (57.6%) 98 (38.4%) 10 (3.9%)

  • But in the Sicilian as Black you score 66 (48%) wins, 67 (49% losses, and 4 (3%) draws. 

In other words, using your own skill level as your rubric, you perform better as Black when you aren't playing the Sicilian. 

 

Sure, anyone can play the Sicilian. That was never the point anyone was trying to make. But if a class player wants to improve, there may be better openings than the Sicilian for them.

 

 

LouStule
SmyslovFan wrote:

Bear in mind, @LouStule, your overall record as Black in daily chess is: 

  • Black:147 (57.6%) 98 (38.4%) 10 (3.9%)

  • But in the Sicilian as Black you score 66 (48%) wins, 67 (49% losses, and 4 (3%) draws. 

In other words, using your own skill level as your rubric, you perform better as Black when you aren't playing the Sicilian. 

 

Sure, anyone can play the Sicilian. That was never the point anyone was trying to make. But if a class player wants to improve, there may be better openings than the Sicilian for them.

 

 

I was probably drunk that day.

LouStule

Besides, 66 wins plus 4 draws equals 70 which is more than the  67 loses so there. P.S. thank you for finding that. P.S.S. What's a "rubric"?

LouStule

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Chessflyfisher

Yes.

SmyslovFan

A rubric is a way to measure yourself.

Added: In this case, the standard you set for yourself is the standard of scoring 60% as Black in all openings. The question is whether you perform better when playing the Sicilian than when you play all other openings as Black. Your overall skill level would suggest you should score at least 60% in your favorite opening. In reality, you score only 50%, and you've played 137 daily games  as Black in the Sicilian! This is a major drag on your overall performance. 

 

As Black, you score ~60% total. As Black in the Sicilian you score ~50%, 10% lower.

 

If you were to fix your opening as Black against 1.e4 to match your other results as Black, you would see an obvious rating increase. You can even calculate your expected increase yourself.

FredPhillips

ok, then someone put up some games from 2018 with sicilian and see how it fared. then a lower rated player can make a judgement himself on whether its sound or not.

 

FredPhillips

oh and from our best tournaments.

formatallan

Chess is stupid!

LouStule
Who can win 60% of the time with black? Rediculous
RoobieRoo

better openings than the Sicilian for them?  say it aint so! wink.png