Robert0905 wrote:
but it's not clear if this is a refutation.
that variation is playable for black, though extemely unbalanced...
Is the Traxler Variation Unsound?
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Jan 9, 2015
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#44
kiloNewton, instead of going into that line, it's simpler just to play Bxf7+
Robert0905 wrote:
kiloNewton, instead of going into that line, it's simpler just to play Bxf7+
can we say that 4...Bc5 if refuted by 5.Bxf7! ?
Jan 9, 2015
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#46
END OF DISCUSSION: VERDICT:TRAXLER IS UNSOUND, REFUTED WITH 5.BXF7+
END OF THIS FORUM.
pfren wrote:
kiloNewton wrote:
Robert0905 wrote:
but it's not clear if this is a refutation.
that variation is playable for black, though extemely unbalanced...
That variation is close to a draw (white may force it if he wishes so), but then only an idiot would try refuting the Traxler with 5.Nxf7. The line is totally impractical to play OTB, even if you memorize a great deal of moves.
As I said, I prefer Buecker's 5.d4. In the main line, it is quite alike the Bxf7+ lines, with a difference: the d-pawns are missing, and this favours white (Black's king is more exposed at e7).
from post #31
this line is very good for white.
Jan 9, 2015
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#49
pfren wrote:
Robert0905 wrote:
END OF DISCUSSION: VERDICT:TRAXLER IS UNSOUND, REFUTED WITH 5.BXF7+
END OF THIS FORUM.
The definitive refutation of the Traxler is 1.d4: Black cannot even apply it.
lol
Robert0905 hit on a bright idea:
No reason to post any more.
Jan 9, 2015
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#53
ghostofmaroczy realized what a smart person I am:
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No true.
Robert0905 is without reason:
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No true.
if black play traxler in bullet, he has better chance of winning.(as he knows the lines and white needs time to remember variations)
Hi i have two things to say i am defintly weaker than a IM.But here is my opinions and i have resereched about the traxler in the past first Bxf7 is not the best its inferior to Nxf7 but white in most positions is over +1.00 i know that dosent mean anything since you are not computers but if you know a couple of lines you can saifly defened.Seconed IM pfren(this is why said i am weaker than a IM) said i wouldn't bother as black with d5 and Na5 but the thing is black has a easy game and more wining chaces than playing 3.Bc5 4.c3(where white will get a dangeroues attack) or 4.d3(you both have the same position but a tempo down) and in the d3 lines the bishop is better at e7.
Edit:This is just my opinion based on my experience if i am wrong dont attack me correct me.
And IM pfren it says in the dvd you sent a black repertoire against the two knigtsl.
http://www.chesstv.eu/niva1/school/Traxler.htm here is evreything you want to know about the traxler
Jan 10, 2015
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#59
If you're a computer then yes. Doesn't stockfish put white something around +2? But it's so complicated that humans won't find perfect moves.
PPS2 wrote:
http://www.chesstv.eu/niva1/school/Traxler.htm here is evreything you want to know about the traxler
Everything! Except the critical 5.Bf7 and 5.d4 lines, as well the best lines after 5.Nf7 for White.
but it's not clear if this is a refutation.