Is the Traxler Variation Unsound?

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lolurspammed

Why avoid Evans? It's a playable opening but nothing to "avoid." I'm personally more afraid of a prepared fried liver player.

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This is going slightly of topic.

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drybasin

Obviously my hint was too subtle for you two, so maybe this will work: Quit the discussion, it's getting annoying.  Stop trying to get the final word, or it'll go on forever.

Summary: The Traxler isn't good for Black at all after 5.Bxf7, though several other lines work well against it as well.  End of discussion.

PPS2

"Given so much incorrectness, the

Traxler Gambit should be regarded

as unplayable. When it

will ever be reduced to a footnote

in the theory books of the future,

that note might read approximately

like: “4...Ãc5? 5.Àf7!

Ãf2 6.®f1! ©e7 7.Àh8 d5 8.ed5

Àd4 9.d6 cd6 10.®f2 d5

11.Ãe2ê De Zeeuw”. But in

the history of Traxler theory so

many mistakes have been made,

that even regarding this one cannot

be fully sure."

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pfren
PPS2 wrote:

"Given so much incorrectness, the

Traxler Gambit should be regarded

as unplayable. When it

will ever be reduced to a footnote

in the theory books of the future,

that note might read approximately

like: “4...Ãc5? 5.Àf7!

Ãf2 6.®f1! ©e7 7.Àh8 d5 8.ed5

Àd4 9.d6 cd6 10.®f2 d5

11.Ãe2ê De Zeeuw”. But in

the history of Traxler theory so

many mistakes have been made,

that even regarding this one cannot

be fully sure."

De Zeeuw's analyses are flawed in almost all variations.

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1283315840

Given so much incorrectness, it's obvious that

1. His analyses should be mentioned with a barrel of salt handy.

2. Trying to refute the opening by 5.Nxf7 is silly- Black is OK in all lines.

3. Given the complexity of the position, and the bogus evaluations by enghines and experts, one playing white should adopt the KISS principle as soon as possible.

4. Neglected continuations, such as 5.Bxf7+ Ke7 6.Bc4!? should be taken quite seriously- Black has no clear way to prove compensation, and such lines are an excellent way to get "out of the book" as white, and maintain fair winning chances.