The French is perfectly viable in all the major branches, and plenty of the minor ones. One need only glance at the armada of GM's who play it to see the obvious truth of that statement.
No idea what it has to do with the Sicilian, though.
It's time again for "What's My Favorite Sicilian?"
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What does one do if they do not know any silicans?
I've heard at them, but im at the level where if i play an opening my opponent doesnt follow the line.
Jan 15, 2014
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#26
true.... well do you want some help with tactics or anything, or a sparing partner.
Well, I am a low level, but in the last 2 months I've come from about 700 (online chess) to now 1100 so I think thats a good achievement, but thanks for the offer :) I'll friend you and maybe we can talk some time. Or play.
ThrillerFan wrote:
clunney wrote:
French > All Sicilians (except the Najdorf).
Uhm - The French stinks! I played it for 10 years...trust me, I know. White has two options that lead to a huge advantage. 3.Nc3 or 3.e5. 3.exd5 and 3.Nd2 (because of 3...c5) are garbage.
Here's a thumping of mine from 5 weeks ago (over the board) with 3.Nc3:
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/a-french-thumpin
And I don't have the scoresheet on me right now, but two weeks ago today, I pulled off another mauling with the Advance Variation (3.e5).
The French is the easiest way to play for a win with black without memorizing 3132897239327 moves of theory (unlike the Sicilian). 3. Nc3 and 3. e5 do not lead to a "large white advantage", lol.
Jan 16, 2014
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The_Potato wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
3.exd5 and 3.Nd2 (because of 3...c5) are garbage.
Not really, In my opinion 3... Nf6 is way better than 3... c5 Black will get an isolated d pawn if the plays 3... c5 against 3. Nd2
Two flaws in your logic:
1) Black doesn't have to take an IQP (1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.exd5 Qxd5)
2) The line that gives White ZERO advantage is 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5! 4.exd5 (4.Ngf3 Nf6 5.e5 Nfd7 and White is forced into the Korchnoi Gambit, which isn't good, the Knight belongs on e2) 4...exd5! 5.Ngf3 (5.Bb5+ Bd7!) 5...Nf6! (NOT the old 5...Nc6). Also, if you claim a line is better "simply because the other lines leads to an IQP", then clearly you don't understand IQP positions, and therefore can't make a rational judgment, and your statement is pointless!
ThrillerFan wrote:
Also, if you claim a line is better "simply because the other lines leads to an IQP", then clearly you don't understand IQP positions, and therefore can't make a rational judgment, and your statement is pointless!
You could say something very similar about one who states that the advance leads to a large advantage for white.
Jan 16, 2014
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#31
Fairy_Princess wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
Also, if you claim a line is better "simply because the other lines leads to an IQP", then clearly you don't understand IQP positions, and therefore can't make a rational judgment, and your statement is pointless!
You could say something very similar about one who states that the advance leads to a large advantage for white.
At least I can back it up - can that other fool show me a recent game where he or she blew away the IQP? January 2, 2014, I've got White below. When I talk the talk, I say it because I can walk the walk as well, unlike Fischer, who rants about the defense (Winawer French) he had the most trouble against and "hated facing" rather than what he could actually beat. You don't see me trash talking the Najdorf Sicilian! I can't win with it! I can't beat it! It has me stumped, and I bow to it! The French? 3.Nc3 and 3.e5 both lead to a fairly significant advantage for White!
whatver this is as black... c5, g6 bg7 with an d6 in there and an nc6 in any order... so long as c5 is the first move... yeah im a n00b
ACookieJar wrote:
whatver this is as black... c5, g6 bg7 with an d6 in there and an nc6 in any order... so long as c5 is the first move... yeah im a n00b
That is what I use sometimes. It's a hyper-accelerated dragon but when you play d6 it can transpose to a normal dragon. I like to play ...Nf6 before ...d6 to avoid the Maroczy bind.
Jan 16, 2014
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ThrillerFan wrote:
clunney wrote:
French > All Sicilians (except the Najdorf).
Uhm - The French stinks! I played it for 10 years...trust me, I know. White has two options that lead to a huge advantage. 3.Nc3 or 3.e5. 3.exd5 and 3.Nd2 (because of 3...c5) are garbage.
Here's a thumping of mine from 5 weeks ago (over the board) with 3.Nc3:
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/a-french-thumpin
And I don't have the scoresheet on me right now, but two weeks ago today, I pulled off another mauling with the Advance Variation (3.e5).
the Advance Variation hands black the advantage instantly, harmless, if the idea is to play a Milner Barry Gambit any decent french player will kindly show you the refutation to either line 9.Nxd4 and 9.Nbd2.
3.Nc3 is not "winning" and merely offers a small advantage and the winawer variation will make sure getting that small advantage is no simple walk in the park.
Jan 16, 2014
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The_Potato wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
3.exd5 and 3.Nd2 (because of 3...c5) are garbage.
Not really, In my opinion 3... Nf6 is way better than 3... c5 Black will get an isolated d pawn if the plays 3... c5 against 3. Nd2
black doesn't get an iqp when he plays Qxd5 which is better than exd5
p-wnattack wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
clunney wrote:
French > All Sicilians (except the Najdorf).
Uhm - The French stinks! I played it for 10 years...trust me, I know. White has two options that lead to a huge advantage. 3.Nc3 or 3.e5. 3.exd5 and 3.Nd2 (because of 3...c5) are garbage.
Here's a thumping of mine from 5 weeks ago (over the board) with 3.Nc3:
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/a-french-thumpin
And I don't have the scoresheet on me right now, but two weeks ago today, I pulled off another mauling with the Advance Variation (3.e5).
the Advance Variation hands black the advantage instantly, harmless, if the idea is to play a Milner Barry Gambit any decent french player will kindly show you the refutation to either line 9.Nxd4 and 9.Nbd2.
3.Nc3 is not "winning" and merely offers a small advantage and the winawer variation as well as the classical will make sure getting that small advantage is no simple walk in the park.
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Black has an advantage after 9.Nbd2?
Jan 16, 2014
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#38
TitanCG wrote:
Black has an advantage after 9.Nbd2?
i talking about 9.Nbd2 in the milner barry gambit not the tarrasch variation.
this thing
(the milner gambit is not sound)
Yeah for some reason the general concensus is that 9.Nbd2 is equal when it's pretty clear that white doesn't have enough comp.
Sicilian Kan for me